[Gslug-general] ubuntu - FYI only - no flame war intended

Jarod Wilson jarod at wilsonet.com
Mon Nov 3 20:36:24 PST 2008


On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 23:11 -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 19:07 -0700, Bryan McLellan wrote:
> > I think if you look you'll see that Canonical paid developers do a ton
> > of work in the Linux Community. Probably not in the Kernel, but I know
> > in my personal experience I see as much work in virtualization come
> > out of Canonical [5] as I do from Redhat [6]. Redhat owns qumranet
> > now, but you won't see many kernel (api) changes in KVM, which is
> > exactly the point of the approach. Try to get libvirt/kvm running on
> > Debian, then try on Ubuntu and come back to me.
> 
> This whole paragraph is honestly quite a laugh and a half. You honestly
> believe Canonical has done as much virtualization work as Red Hat? The
> *vast* majority of the heavy lifting in virtualization is kernel-side,
> where Canonical has done squat, and Red Hat has done a ton of work (even
> before purchasing qumranet). The next biggest area is management, aka
> libvirt and virt manager. Both of those were written by Red Hat.
> Canonical is obviously particularly good at is marketing, if you really
> think they've done just as much as Red Hat for virtualization.

Wow, I sound a bit hostile there... Apologies for that. But honestly,
Red Hat does do way more than Canonical in the virtualization space, and
for the Linux community as a whole, and that's to be expected -- Red Hat
has been around a lot longer, and has somewhere around 20x as many
employees. Red Hat just isn't as good at marketing as Canonical.

--jarod




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