From hgg9140 at seanet.com Fri Jul 3 10:15:56 2009 From: hgg9140 at seanet.com (Harry George) Date: Sun Jul 5 20:57:08 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] "watchbill" 'shift roster" tool? Message-ID: <20090703101556.0d5287bf@fred.site> Any recommendations or insights? Here's what I have so far. Desipte some Googling, it looks like I have to roll my own. But the functionality is so obvious (and so simple) I'm guessing someone has already done this in OSS. http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/watchbill/index.html -- Harry George hgg9140@seanet.com Personal: www.seanet.com/~hgg9140 (Citizen/Activist) From r2mhf at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 21:09:50 2009 From: r2mhf at yahoo.com (r2mhf@yahoo.com) Date: Sun Jul 5 21:04:13 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Linux scripts for audio Message-ID: <231527.40877.qm@web38805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Who has experience working with audio?? I am new to scripting and I need some help with doing scheduled recording.? I would probably need to do it from a script and run from the cron tab.? I don't know of any timer features inside a Linux audio program that will work, but open to hear any suggestions.? The timer record feature in Audacity is not versatile or reliable enough for what I need to do. The script would have to initiate recording and pickup the live sound coming in from an external mixer, then record for 2 hours and write to a wav file.? Other options to add would be automatically naming the file with the current date and converting the wav to flac.? I would also like to be able to copy the file to shared folder and then log in remotely to download the file for editing on another machine.? I am somewhat familiar with Linux audio programs but need some recommendations.? Does anyone here work with Ardour?? Is ecasound better than arecord?? Is SOX still a good program or is there something better now?? Thanks, Ron. From hgg9140 at seanet.com Mon Jul 6 21:06:26 2009 From: hgg9140 at seanet.com (Harry George) Date: Mon Jul 6 21:03:43 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Linux scripts for audio In-Reply-To: <231527.40877.qm@web38805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <231527.40877.qm@web38805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1246939596.13195.1.camel@barney.site> Many of the tools can be run commandline and thus can be cron'd. What are you using? On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 21:09 -0700, r2mhf@yahoo.com wrote: > Who has experience working with audio? I am new to scripting and I need some help with doing scheduled recording. I would probably need to do it from a script and run from the cron tab. I don't know of any timer features inside a Linux audio program that will work, but open to hear any suggestions. The timer record feature in Audacity is not versatile or reliable enough for what I need to do. > > The script would have to initiate recording and pickup the live sound coming in from an external mixer, then record for 2 hours and write to a wav file. Other options to add would be automatically naming the file with the current date and converting the wav to flac. I would also like to be able to copy the file to shared folder and then log in remotely to download the file for editing on another machine. > > I am somewhat familiar with Linux audio programs but need some recommendations. Does anyone here work with Ardour? Is ecasound better than arecord? Is SOX still a good program or is there something better now? Thanks, Ron. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From lucas.thompson at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 21:40:19 2009 From: lucas.thompson at gmail.com (Lucas Thompson) Date: Mon Jul 6 21:55:52 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Linux scripts for audio In-Reply-To: <231527.40877.qm@web38805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <231527.40877.qm@web38805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used to do that to record a radio show on a regular basis. It only took a few minutes to set up. This seems to be a good blog post on it: One thing the post misses is that sometimes the mixer levels will become reset. The non-GUI mixer will let you save and restore settings into a file. You should figure out and save the mixer levels you want and restore them right before you start the recording to make sure it's all set correctly. imho, it doesn't matter in this case how good (fast? featureful? reliable?) the programs are. If you just have a fixed job to do, just find the thing that does it correctly and forget about it. On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:09 PM, wrote: > > Who has experience working with audio?? I am new to scripting and I need some help with doing scheduled recording.? I would probably need to do it from a script and run from the cron tab.? I don't know of any timer features inside a Linux audio program that will work, but open to hear any suggestions.? The timer record feature in Audacity is not versatile or reliable enough for what I need to do. > > The script would have to initiate recording and pickup the live sound coming in from an external mixer, then record for 2 hours and write to a wav file.? Other options to add would be automatically naming the file with the current date and converting the wav to flac.? I would also like to be able to copy the file to shared folder and then log in remotely to download the file for editing on another machine. > > I am somewhat familiar with Linux audio programs but need some recommendations.? Does anyone here work with Ardour?? Is ecasound better than arecord?? Is SOX still a good program or is there something better now?? Thanks, Ron. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > From mark at foster.cc Thu Jul 9 19:09:04 2009 From: mark at foster.cc (Mark Foster) Date: Thu Jul 9 19:03:31 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] GSLUG meeting Saturday 7/11 Message-ID: <4A56A2C0.7020804@foster.cc> Come one, come all! The next Greater Seattle LINUX User Group meeting is this coming Saturday July 11th @ 12 noon. This month we are meeting at the Ballard branch of Seattle Public Library. Please RSVP if you plan to attend, and consider signing up for a talk! We hope to see you there. Bring or tell a friend! -- Mark D. Foster http://mark.foster.cc/ | http://conshell.net/ From dave at pedaldynamics.com Thu Jul 16 19:59:41 2009 From: dave at pedaldynamics.com (Dave R) Date: Thu Jul 16 20:05:06 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] OT FS: Eee PC 900 10" Netbook Message-ID: <1247799581.783515395@192.168.1.70> Folks, I am selling my white Eee PC 900 netbook. This one was known as one of the 'Target 900' models sold. Specs: Intel Celeron M Processor 900MHz 2GB RAM 4GB SSD Harddrive Wifi (not sure which card) 8.9" screen 1024x768 resolution SD card slot 3 USB slots Ethernet port monitor out Everything works on it except for the left click on the mouse buttons by the touchpad. The left click works if you tap the touchpad as normal. I will also throw in a mini USB mouse if someone wants it. The case has a few nicks and scratches on it from normal use. Batteries last about 2 hours. AC adapter included. It is currently running fresh install of Ubuntu 9.04. I have put a bunch of different OS's on it. It is quite easy to boot off USB or the SD Card. Asking $150 obo. I got pictures and the netbook is located in North Seattle. Email me if any one is interested. Thanks, Dave From eric at ejahn.net Tue Jul 21 19:16:22 2009 From: eric at ejahn.net (Eric Jahn) Date: Tue Jul 21 19:16:33 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] ssh into luks encrypted home Message-ID: <1248228982.6871.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Good evening gentlepeople, I have ssh keys working well between my boxes, and pam_mount nicely decrypts my luks encrypted home dirs, *with a password*. But, I'd like to ssh *using a key* into my box, which would then cause pam_mount to decrypt my home dir. But this doesn't work and I don't even know if there is a good way to do this, because pam_mount can't get to my .ssh folder to verify the key until it decrypts the home dir. Does anyone have a solution? Thanks! -Eric From herber at thing.com Wed Jul 22 00:24:27 2009 From: herber at thing.com (Steve Herber) Date: Wed Jul 22 00:30:26 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] ssh into luks encrypted home In-Reply-To: <1248228982.6871.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1248228982.6871.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I don't know if it would be a solution for your exact problem but I like using keychain: Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/ Description: ssh-agent manager I use it to configure ssh-agent once upon boot up of a computer. After that, ssh commands find the needed passwords in ssh-agent. Good luck! -- Steve Herber herber@thing.com work: 206-221-7262 Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services home: 425-454-2399 On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Eric Jahn wrote: > Good evening gentlepeople, > I have ssh keys working well between my boxes, and pam_mount nicely > decrypts my luks encrypted home dirs, *with a password*. But, I'd like > to ssh *using a key* into my box, which would then cause pam_mount to > decrypt my home dir. But this doesn't work and I don't even know if > there is a good way to do this, because pam_mount can't get to my .ssh > folder to verify the key until it decrypts the home dir. Does anyone > have a solution? Thanks! -Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > From paul.bartell at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 00:24:28 2009 From: paul.bartell at gmail.com (Paul Bartell) Date: Wed Jul 22 00:51:16 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] ssh into luks encrypted home In-Reply-To: <1248228982.6871.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1248228982.6871.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2b5bab0f0907220024g37c0ff21re1d22fb9aaa50a79@mail.gmail.com> Perhaps use LUKS encryption, and mount it underneath the homedir so it would be like /home/you/crypt/ or mount .ssh separately, from a file or something. I dont know. There arent many good options. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Eric Jahn wrote: > Good evening gentlepeople, > I have ssh keys working well between my boxes, and pam_mount nicely > decrypts my luks encrypted home dirs, *with a password*. ?But, I'd like > to ssh *using a key* into my box, which would then cause pam_mount to > decrypt my home dir. ?But this doesn't work and I don't even know if > there is a good way to do this, because pam_mount can't get to my .ssh > folder to verify the key until it decrypts the home dir. ?Does anyone > have a solution? ?Thanks! -Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Random quote of the week/month/whenever i get to updating it: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?": "who shall watch the watchers themselves?" - Juvenal From cdine at cdine.org Wed Jul 22 11:40:38 2009 From: cdine at cdine.org (Ian Gallagher) Date: Wed Jul 22 11:46:55 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] ssh into luks encrypted home In-Reply-To: <2b5bab0f0907220024g37c0ff21re1d22fb9aaa50a79@mail.gmail.com> References: <1248228982.6871.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2b5bab0f0907220024g37c0ff21re1d22fb9aaa50a79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b5c15340907221140q5963e997l941d2ca46debd8c0@mail.gmail.com> Could you have a skeleton home directory with just .ssh/authorized_keys in it that then has the LUKS filesystem mounted over it? Alternatively, you can specify a different path for the authorized_keys file in sshd_config, see the man page for that: """ AuthorizedKeysFile Specifies the file that contains the public keys that can be used for user authenti? cation. AuthorizedKeysFile may contain tokens of the form %T which are substituted during connection setup. The following tokens are defined: %% is replaced by a lit? eral ?%?, %h is replaced by the home directory of the user being authenticated, and %u is replaced by the username of that user. After expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute path or one relative to the user?s home directory. The default is ?.ssh/authorized_keys?. """ -Ian On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 00:24, Paul Bartell wrote: > Perhaps use LUKS encryption, and mount it underneath the homedir so it > would be like /home/you/crypt/ > > or > > mount .ssh separately, from a file or something. > > I dont know. There arent many good options. > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Eric Jahn wrote: > > Good evening gentlepeople, > > I have ssh keys working well between my boxes, and pam_mount nicely > > decrypts my luks encrypted home dirs, *with a password*. But, I'd like > > to ssh *using a key* into my box, which would then cause pam_mount to > > decrypt my home dir. But this doesn't work and I don't even know if > > there is a good way to do this, because pam_mount can't get to my .ssh > > folder to verify the key until it decrypts the home dir. Does anyone > > have a solution? 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URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090722/e2141ed9/attachment.html From bri at ifokr.org Wed Jul 22 18:38:32 2009 From: bri at ifokr.org (Brian Hatch) Date: Wed Jul 22 18:38:36 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Discount for your LUG at LinuxCon [fwd from ccr@linuxfoundation.org] Message-ID: <20090723013832.GW18461@ifokr.org> Greetings from my honeymoon.... ----- Forwarded message from "C. Craig Ross" ----- From: "C. Craig Ross" Subject: Discount for your LUG at LinuxCon Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:11:21 -0400 To: linuxcon@linuxfoundation.org Hello, We wanted to let your LUG know about LinuxCon, the newest Linux Foundation conference for All Matters Linux that takes place in Portland OR on September 21 - 23, 2009. LinuxCon will bring together the best and brightest that the Linux community has to offer, including core developers, administrators, end users, community managers and industry experts. With speakers that include Linus Torvalds, Mark Shuttleworth, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Matt Asay and many more industry experts and luminaries LinuxCon promises to be an highly educational and collaborative environment where attendees can learn about the latest technical advances of the Linux platform and interact with their peers. For more information about LinuxCon, please visit the conference website here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon We would also like to offer members of your LUG a 20% discount for LinuxCon. Please use the discount code LCLUG_20 when registering. You can register for only $399 until August 15th here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/component/registrationpro/?func=details&did=1 We greatly appreciate your support. Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions. Cheers, C. -- C. Craig Ross Community Relations Manager The Linux Foundation http://www.linuxfoundation.org/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Brian Hatch "I'll file that under 'what could Systems and possibly go wrong.'" Security Engineer --wac http://www.ifokr.org/bri/ Every message PGP signed From andrew at sweger.net Fri Jul 24 17:40:07 2009 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Fri Jul 24 17:40:16 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Discount for your LUG at LinuxCon [fwd from ccr@linuxfoundation.org] In-Reply-To: <20090723013832.GW18461@ifokr.org> Message-ID: I don't believe it; no signature. On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Brian Hatch wrote: > Greetings from my honeymoon.... > > > ----- Forwarded message from "C. Craig Ross" ----- > > From: "C. Craig Ross" > Subject: Discount for your LUG at LinuxCon > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:11:21 -0400 > To: linuxcon@linuxfoundation.org > > Hello, > > We wanted to let your LUG know about LinuxCon, the newest Linux Foundation > conference for All Matters Linux that takes place in Portland OR on > September 21 - 23, 2009. > > LinuxCon will bring together the best and brightest that the Linux community > has to offer, including core developers, administrators, end users, > community managers and industry experts. With speakers that include Linus > Torvalds, Mark Shuttleworth, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Matt Asay and many more > industry experts and luminaries LinuxCon promises to be an highly > educational and collaborative environment where attendees can learn about > the latest technical advances of the Linux platform and interact with their > peers. > > For more information about LinuxCon, please visit the conference website > here: > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon > > We would also like to offer members of your LUG a 20% discount for > LinuxCon. Please use the discount code LCLUG_20 when registering. You can > register for only $399 until August 15th here: > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/component/registrationpro/?func=details&did=1 > > We greatly appreciate your support. Please feel free to contact us if you > have any questions. > > Cheers, > > C. > > -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From bri at ifokr.org Fri Jul 24 20:45:08 2009 From: bri at ifokr.org (Brian Hatch) Date: Fri Jul 24 20:45:11 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Discount for your LUG at LinuxCon [fwd from ccr@linuxfoundation.org] In-Reply-To: References: <20090723013832.GW18461@ifokr.org> Message-ID: <20090725034508.GC5303@ifokr.org> Around about 2009-07-24 17:40 -0700, Andrew Sweger rambled on: > I don't believe it; no signature. My pgp password is a bit tricky to type on my android, being as long and special character/mixed caps as it is. Maybe next time I'm on my honeymoon I won't forward emails to gslug from my cell phone. (Wait a minute, if things go well I wouldn't have another one, right?) -- Brian Hatch "Why Frodo go away?" Systems and "His soul was irrevocably transmuted Security Engineer by the power of the one ring." http://www.ifokr.org/bri/ ".... Oh." Lainee (age 3) and Bree Every message PGP signed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Our most recent ENE hire was usefully mentoring in a couple of months Excellent training and help available. F5 is doing really well atm btw fwiw. The position opens Monday, and I can provide a ton of info about it and the hiring process. Cramming for the tech interview recommended and respected! I can give some pointers. From jamesthefishy at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 22:41:54 2009 From: jamesthefishy at gmail.com (james michael) Date: Mon Jul 27 22:42:10 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> I was wondering if there was like a page that would answer those simple but confusing questions about etiquette in internet based things like email, phone voice mail (I have Google Voice) and websites... here is some quick questions I've had: 1. In replying to an e-mail, where do you reply. Top or bottom of the original e-mail? 2. Google Voice oriented: When someone calls it asks for a name, so when I answer the phone I know who it is before actually picking up the phone. I believe this is an option, either way is this a good option to have for a business line? 3. Is it okay to have and give business employer a website that has your personal system scripts (personal but not too personal) and resume on it, also is it okay to have the website on your resume even if your not going for a webmaster or graphic designer position? 4. (A recent discussion on gslug) Signatures: How long and what should they contain min to max. What information is to much? These are just some quick questions. If anyone has more feel free to post as well and if there are any resources or pages like this then I would be grateful if they are posted. Thank you for reading and have a good day. From chuckw at quantumlinux.com Mon Jul 27 22:57:30 2009 From: chuckw at quantumlinux.com (Chuck Wolber) Date: Mon Jul 27 23:01:47 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, james michael wrote: [...] > 1. In replying to an e-mail, where do you reply. Top or bottom of the > original e-mail? Bottom, that is unless you start out all of your conversations with the response first then the question. > 3. Is it okay to have and give business employer a website that has your > personal system scripts (personal but not too personal) and resume on > it, also is it okay to have the website on your resume even if your not > going for a webmaster or graphic designer position? Will it make you worth more to the employer? Putting stuff on a resume is like speaking in court. Be short and sweet. Too much information and you might get yourself into trouble. IMHO of course... > 4. (A recent discussion on gslug) Signatures: How long and what should > they contain min to max. What information is to much? I usually stick to the 4 line rule. Actually it is a 4+1 rule. The first line only contains a "--" which is a universal signal to mail clients that a signature follows and then 4 lines of signature information. As you can see, currently I have mine whittled down to 3+1. ..Ch:W.. -- http://www.quantumlinux.com | "An idea does not gain Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC. | truth as it gains ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology | followers." Amanda Bloom From andrew at becherer.org Mon Jul 27 23:24:06 2009 From: andrew at becherer.org (Andrew Becherer) Date: Mon Jul 27 23:24:10 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Chuck Wolber wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, james michael wrote: > > [...] > >> 1. In replying to an e-mail, where do you reply. Top or bottom of the >> original e-mail? > > Bottom, that is unless you start out all of your conversations with the > response first then the question. I disagree. Address your audience. When I deal with people who use Outlook I top quote. When replying to a Linux user group mailing lists I bottom quote. My preference is bottom quote but I never want my preference to prevent my message from getting across. >> 3. Is it okay to have and give business employer a website that has your >> personal system scripts (personal but not too personal) and resume on >> it, also is it okay to have the website on your resume even if your not >> going for a webmaster or graphic designer position? > > Will it make you worth more to the employer? Putting stuff on a resume is > like speaking in court. Be short and sweet. Too much information and you > might get yourself into trouble. IMHO of course... I agree with Chuck here. Think long and hard about what your focus is for employment. Craft your resume and online presence to further that goal. Focus is key. When I was last in the job market there were three types of positions I was interested in and I had 3 base resumes which I would further customize for specific job openings. I did have a generic resume on my website. If your resume is longer than a page and you aren't in academia you are doing it wrong (IMHO). -- Andrew Becherer From travis.eeepc at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 08:37:37 2009 From: travis.eeepc at gmail.com (Travis) Date: Tue Jul 28 08:37:44 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com><4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chuck Wolber wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, james michael wrote: > > [...] > >> 1. In replying to an e-mail, where do you reply. Top or bottom of the >> original e-mail? > > Bottom, that is unless you start out all of your conversations with > the response first then the question. > > >> 3. Is it okay to have and give business employer a website that has >> your personal system scripts (personal but not too personal) and >> resume on it, also is it okay to have the website on your resume >> even if your not going for a webmaster or graphic designer position? > > Will it make you worth more to the employer? Putting stuff on a > resume is like speaking in court. Be short and sweet. Too much > information and you might get yourself into trouble. IMHO of course... > > >> 4. (A recent discussion on gslug) Signatures: How long and what >> should they contain min to max. What information is to much? > > I usually stick to the 4 line rule. Actually it is a 4+1 rule. The > first line only contains a "--" which is a universal signal to mail > clients that a signature follows and then 4 lines of signature > information. As you can see, currently I have mine whittled down to > 3+1. > > > ..Ch:W.. I think the sig delimiter is "hyphen, hyphen, space, CR, CR. -- Travis in Shoreline Washington From jarod at wilsonet.com Tue Jul 28 08:43:45 2009 From: jarod at wilsonet.com (Jarod Wilson) Date: Tue Jul 28 08:44:07 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com><4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Travis wrote: > Chuck Wolber wrote: >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, james michael wrote: >> [...] >>> 1. In replying to an e-mail, where do you reply. Top or bottom of >>> the >>> original e-mail? >> Bottom, that is unless you start out all of your conversations with >> the response first then the question. >>> 3. Is it okay to have and give business employer a website that has >>> your personal system scripts (personal but not too personal) and >>> resume on it, also is it okay to have the website on your resume >>> even if your not going for a webmaster or graphic designer position? >> Will it make you worth more to the employer? Putting stuff on a >> resume is like speaking in court. Be short and sweet. Too much >> information and you might get yourself into trouble. IMHO of >> course... >>> 4. (A recent discussion on gslug) Signatures: How long and what >>> should they contain min to max. What information is to much? >> I usually stick to the 4 line rule. Actually it is a 4+1 rule. The >> first line only contains a "--" which is a universal signal to mail >> clients that a signature follows and then 4 lines of signature >> information. As you can see, currently I have mine whittled down to >> 3+1. ..Ch:W.. > > I think the sig delimiter is "hyphen, hyphen, space, CR, CR. Chuck was definitely missing the space and first carriage return, but I dunno about the second CR, I've always used just one, and seen it plenty... There's an rfc somewhere out there... Ah, there it is: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676#section-4.3 Doesn't say anything about # of CR though. -- Jarod Wilson jarod@wilsonet.com From m3047 at inwa.net Tue Jul 28 10:00:16 2009 From: m3047 at inwa.net (Fred Morris) Date: Tue Jul 28 09:53:25 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200907281000.16867.m3047@inwa.net> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 08:37, Travis wrote: > Chuck Wolber wrote: > > I usually stick to the 4 line rule. Actually it is a 4+1 rule. The > > first line only contains a "--" which is a universal signal to mail > > clients that a signature follows and then 4 lines of signature > > information. As you can see, currently I have mine whittled down to > > 3+1. > > I think the sig delimiter is "hyphen, hyphen, space, CR, CR. > -- > > Travis in Shoreline Washington > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general Well, obviously the mailing list software doesn't agree with us. ;-) With that disclaimer, my recollection is that "CRLFdashdashCRLF" predates MIME and indicates a section (I don't recall that there was an RFC for that, but it was a well-accepted convention). This indeed was utilized by mail and usenet clients to locate and separate binhexed and uuencoded attachments. When the MIME standard came along the dashdash idiom was embraced and extended. Each instance of a MIME separator within a message body is preceded with dashdash; the final MIME separator in a group (nesting is possible) is additionally appended with dashdash. -- Fred Morris, internet plumber From chuckw at quantumlinux.com Tue Jul 28 09:55:18 2009 From: chuckw at quantumlinux.com (Chuck Wolber) Date: Tue Jul 28 09:54:36 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Andrew Becherer wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Chuck Wolber wrote: > > > > Bottom, that is unless you start out all of your conversations with > > the response first then the question. > > I disagree. Address your audience. When I deal with people who use > Outlook I top quote. When replying to a Linux user group mailing lists I > bottom quote. My preference is bottom quote but I never want my > preference to prevent my message from getting across. I agree with that position and must admit that I do it myself. I feel I must also add one small corollary... When I am looking to hire consultants or employees, few things impress me more, as a first impression, than someone who quotes inline and otherwise contributes to a carefully crafted and aesthetically pleasing email conversation. That kind of effort takes a lot of burden off of me to fish through the email to understand the current state of the conversation. I have also found, oddly enough, that people with whom you would expect have never considered the top vs. bottom debate, immediately take to inline conversations. ..Ch:W.. -- http://www.quantumlinux.com | "An idea does not gain Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC. | truth as it gains ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology | followers." Amanda Bloom From chuckw at quantumlinux.com Tue Jul 28 10:04:11 2009 From: chuckw at quantumlinux.com (Chuck Wolber) Date: Tue Jul 28 10:03:26 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com><4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Travis wrote: [...] > I think the sig delimiter is "hyphen, hyphen, space, CR, CR. Almost, I think we are both wrong here. I looked it up and it appears to be "hyphen, hyphen, space, CR". Also, when you are bottom posting, you still have to trim out all of the junk that is not relevant to what you are replying to. Bottom posting is a two step process... ..Ch:W.. -- http://www.quantumlinux.com | "An idea does not gain Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC. | truth as it gains ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology | followers." Amanda Bloom From btm at loftninjas.org Tue Jul 28 10:18:16 2009 From: btm at loftninjas.org (Bryan McLellan) Date: Tue Jul 28 10:18:40 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <893823750907281018j6fe445adjed15ba99f9ae83b5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM, james michael wrote: > I was wondering if there was like a page that would answer those simple but > confusing questions about etiquette in internet based things like email, > phone voice mail (I have Google Voice) and websites... here is some quick > questions I've had: If the entire internet could read one thing, I would make it this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From ghoneycutt at hq.speakeasy.net Tue Jul 28 15:17:47 2009 From: ghoneycutt at hq.speakeasy.net (Garrett Honeycutt) Date: Tue Jul 28 15:23:21 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6F790B.1090806@hq.speakeasy.net> >>> 3. Is it okay to have and give business employer a website that has your >>> personal system scripts (personal but not too personal) and resume on >>> it, also is it okay to have the website on your resume even if your not >>> going for a webmaster or graphic designer position? >> Will it make you worth more to the employer? Putting stuff on a resume is >> like speaking in court. Be short and sweet. Too much information and you >> might get yourself into trouble. IMHO of course... > > I agree with Chuck here. Think long and hard about what your focus is > for employment. Craft your resume and online presence to further that > goal. Focus is key. When I was last in the job market there were three > types of positions I was interested in and I had 3 base resumes which > I would further customize for specific job openings. I did have a > generic resume on my website. If your resume is longer than a page and > you aren't in academia you are doing it wrong (IMHO). > Having been involved in a lot of technical hiring, the only people with one page resumes are the ones with little experience. While you do not want to write your life saga, more experience simply equates to more pages. As for putting your website on your resume, if it is something you think potential employers will leave with a positive outlook on you, then go for it. Most employers are going to search (google, pipl, linkedin, etc) for you anyhow. -- Garrett Honeycutt Sr. Systems Engineer www.speakeasy.net From frcaen at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 15:36:39 2009 From: frcaen at gmail.com (Francois Caen) Date: Tue Jul 28 15:42:59 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <4A6F790B.1090806@hq.speakeasy.net> References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> <4A6F790B.1090806@hq.speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <58cfe2840907281536g75c7eaa8x97484cfcd82e3198@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Garrett Honeycutt wrote: > Having been involved in a lot of technical hiring, the only people with one > page resumes are the ones with little experience. This is unfortunately a common and dangerous misconception. Dangerous because anything above 2 pages gets automatically discarded by most readers. I've had that discussion with several HR people from analyst to director and they all agree. They frown when I tell them about my 2-page resume, and concede it's acceptable but pushing the limit. -- Francois Caen From andrew at sweger.net Tue Jul 28 20:25:24 2009 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Tue Jul 28 20:25:38 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Chuck Wolber wrote: > Almost, I think we are both wrong here. I looked it up and it appears to > be "hyphen, hyphen, space, CR". Just to further stir this soup, the CR or LF are not really a part of the formula as the particular combinations may be platform and transfer- encoding specific. The signature separator should concisely match the regular expression: /^--\s$/ MUAs may have looser matching rules for handling replies, etc. (i.e., Postel's Law applies). (Please forgive me. Some days, life is like a box of regexes). -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From m3047 at inwa.net Tue Jul 28 21:55:58 2009 From: m3047 at inwa.net (Fred Morris) Date: Tue Jul 28 21:49:04 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <58cfe2840907281536g75c7eaa8x97484cfcd82e3198@mail.gmail.com> References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6F790B.1090806@hq.speakeasy.net> <58cfe2840907281536g75c7eaa8x97484cfcd82e3198@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907282155.58752.m3047@inwa.net> Regarding web sites... On Tuesday 28 July 2009 15:36, Francois Caen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Garrett > Honeycutt wrote: > > Having been involved in a lot of technical hiring, the only people with one > > page resumes are the ones with little experience. > > This is unfortunately a common and dangerous misconception. Dangerous > because anything above 2 pages gets automatically discarded by most > readers. This last time around I put together a tag cloud: http://devil.m3047.inwa.net/matcher/perl/tagged-uri-edit.cgi?domainid=1 Recruiters uniformly hated it. Tech people uniformly liked it and it also worked for me because I could tailor the portfolio by judicious selection of keywords, for instance: http://devil.m3047.inwa.net/matcher/perl/tag-filter.cgi?domainid=1&filter=ajax+bug_report+estimating+linux-marketing-potus+snakestation I don't know how judicious that is, I just figured that might be if interest given the Linux centricity of this h'yar group. Whatever works... works. PS Francois: I'm moving to Tacoma. -- Fred Morris, internet plumber From m3047 at inwa.net Tue Jul 28 22:04:58 2009 From: m3047 at inwa.net (Fred Morris) Date: Tue Jul 28 21:58:01 2009 Subject: protocol wonks R us Re: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200907282204.58025.m3047@inwa.net> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:25, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Just to further stir this soup, the CR or LF are not really a part of the > formula as the particular combinations may be platform and transfer- > encoding specific. Hah! Tell it to Qmail![1] No sir, the RFCs do indeed call out CRLF as the line separator... I think that holds for HTTP, as well as SMTP and NNTP. Whatever your MUA does is between you, it, and the 'tubes. -- Fred Morris, internet plumber [1] I hate Qmail. DJB may be technically/functionally right, but he's technically/nonfunctionally wrong and the RFCs make that clear. From rijilv at riji.lv Tue Jul 28 22:56:52 2009 From: rijilv at riji.lv (RijilV) Date: Tue Jul 28 23:02:10 2009 Subject: protocol wonks R us Re: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <200907282204.58025.m3047@inwa.net> References: <200907282204.58025.m3047@inwa.net> Message-ID: <5068c6420907282256v7ff680b3v95da38b4e4811826@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/28 Fred Morris : > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:25, Andrew Sweger wrote: >> Just to further stir this soup, the CR or LF are not really a part of the >> formula as the particular combinations may be platform and transfer- >> encoding specific. > > Hah! Tell it to Qmail![1] No sir, the RFCs do indeed call out CRLF as the line > separator... I think that holds for HTTP, as well as SMTP and NNTP. Whatever > your MUA does is between you, it, and the 'tubes. > > -- > > Fred Morris, internet plumber > > [1] I hate Qmail. DJB may be technically/functionally right, but he's > technically/nonfunctionally wrong and the RFCs make that clear. > huh? so I really don't care what mailer you use, and it's doubtful I'd consider running qmail myself, but I really don't know what you're talking about. I read your post to say qmail does NOT correctly terminate lines with a CRLF. If that's not the case, disregard the rest of this. qmail only accept CRLF terminated lines in mail. You can even find a patch[1] to allow it to be more accepting (thus violating the RFC, specifically 821 -> 2821 -> 5321). there is even a page[2] on cr.yp.to that qmail will link you to if you try to pass it raw LFs. .r' [1]: http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html [2]: http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html From paul at eucleides.com Tue Jul 28 23:16:49 2009 From: paul at eucleides.com (Paul Franz) Date: Wed Jul 29 00:01:30 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Bryan's wish for the entire Internet In-Reply-To: <893823750907281018j6fe445adjed15ba99f9ae83b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <277301.25157.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A6E8FA2.5030407@gmail.com> <893823750907281018j6fe445adjed15ba99f9ae83b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1994.192.168.0.66.1248848209.squirrel@eucleides.com> On Tue, July 28, 2009 10:18 am, Bryan McLellan wrote: > If the entire internet could read one thing, I would make it this: > > http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Eric Raymond really did a nice job with that writeup. On a couple of occasions he responded to questions I posted on Usenet and I really felt flattered that I had earned his response. Here is another excellent writeup of his: Some people go to extraordinary efforts toward documentation and make files. One such example is mpack which can be found at I suspect the authors were students at CMU because the work is so extensive. They have even updated the K&R C to ANSI C and documented the changes as suggested in Eric Raymond's Release Practice HOWTO. The work is really impressive to me and I use it as a model. It does not build RPM's as suggested in Eric Raymond's Release Practice HOWTO so I have started making the .spec files for that purpose. I have not contacted the authors to see if they're interested. But I thought contributing such to Source Forge might be a useful exercise. The handiest thing I use mpack for is creating man pages and mailing them in a single command line. I call my crude script man2mail: #!/bin/bash # This script mails a man page as a .pdf # The first argument is the name of the manpage you wish to send. # The second argument is the e-mail address of the intended recipient # example: # man2mail gcc paul@eucleides.com # this sends the gcc manpage to paul@eucleides.com man -ta $1 | ps2pdf - > $1.pdf /usr/local/bin/mpack -s "man page for the $1 command" -c application/pdf $1.pdf $2 rm $1.pdf -- Paul Franz 425.440.9505 (O) 425.241.1618 (C) From m3047 at inwa.net Wed Jul 29 01:53:24 2009 From: m3047 at inwa.net (Fred Morris) Date: Wed Jul 29 01:46:29 2009 Subject: protocol wonks R us Re: [Gslug-general] Email Business and General Internet Behavior In-Reply-To: <5068c6420907282256v7ff680b3v95da38b4e4811826@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907282204.58025.m3047@inwa.net> <5068c6420907282256v7ff680b3v95da38b4e4811826@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907290153.24516.m3047@inwa.net> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 22:56, RijilV wrote: > qmail only accept CRLF terminated lines in mail. Yes. It is therefore nonfunctionally flawed. -- Fred Morris, internet plumber From bri at ifokr.org Wed Jul 29 08:19:52 2009 From: bri at ifokr.org (Brian Hatch) Date: Wed Jul 29 08:19:55 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Google Fremont/Kirkland Hiring Message-ID: <20090729151952.GD15435@ifokr.org> For those of you looking for a change, the Google offices in Fremont (next to the bridge, excellent view of the boats going up the canal) and Kirkland (the soon-to-be-really-schnazzy campus, *sniff sniff*) are entering a new phase of aggressive hiring. Positions are mostly within SWE (Software Engineering), SRE (Site Reliabilty Engineering and SysOps), and SET (Software Test Engineering). If folks are interested, drop me a line, or post your resume at http://www.google.com/jobs/ -- Brian Hatch This is the sort of English Systems and up with which I will not put. Security Engineer -- Winston Churchill http://www.ifokr.org/bri/ Every message PGP signed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090729/1c3b09bc/attachment.pgp From mjevans1983 at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 10:28:12 2009 From: mjevans1983 at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Wed Jul 29 12:01:59 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Peer review possible presentation for 2009/8/8 Message-ID: <4877c76c0907291028m9b6fd06yfa8e1d7d240624b4@mail.gmail.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My goal is to present a > very broad overview of the types of technology in use, and to provide basic > resources to start using cryptography wisely. s/symetric/symmetric/g s/cypher/cipher/g I'd suggest you provide gpg commands in email and on the wiki telling folks how to create their pgp keys and print out a copy of the public key *before* the meeting, then we can have a pgp keysigning that day and/or the following month. You seem to inidicate that gpg uses public/private key crypto, which is not the case - content is encrypted w/ a symmetric cipher, and the key to the symmetric cipher is encrypted w/ an asymmetric cipher. This provides speed you'd never get w/ asymmetric the whole way. Would be good to include a small section on MACs and what they're good for. Include a list of a few symm and asymm ciphers, MACs. A followup presentation could discuss SSL/TLS/HTTPS, since you'll have set the groundwork for some of it here. -- Brian Hatch I like cats, but I don't Systems and think I could eat a whole one. Security Engineer http://www.ifokr.org/bri/ Every message PGP signed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I noticed that Chronomex has some info on our very own gslug wiki: http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/User:Chronomex -- Brian Hatch, Systems and Security Engineer. http://www.ifokr.org/bri/ bri: "Will the next cell in line to experience a chubby outage please stand up? jdennett: "No, it'll fall down." Every message PGP signed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090730/dc7fdd50/attachment.pgp From fcp at wittykids.com Thu Jul 30 11:13:56 2009 From: fcp at wittykids.com (Frank Paterra) Date: Thu Jul 30 20:02:42 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Looking for a linix/apache/tomcat build and deployment expert Message-ID: <39295f3a0907301113m2a276cf4gd24e6cb1b7a295ba@mail.gmail.com> Hi All. I have a short term need for an expert to help us out with a pretty new startup/offering. Can I get a recommendation for a good person available contract? We are using using Eclipse, Ant for dev/building tools. We need someone to build us a bullet proof tomcat config file and a bullet proof ant script for build/deployment. Thanks in advance! -- Frank Paterra fcp@wittykids.com From mark at foster.cc Fri Jul 31 06:48:48 2009 From: mark at foster.cc (Mark Foster) Date: Fri Jul 31 07:06:58 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Peer review possible presentation for 2009/8/8 In-Reply-To: <20090730133546.GU5303@ifokr.org> References: <4877c76c0907291028m9b6fd06yfa8e1d7d240624b4@mail.gmail.com> <20090729193529.GK15435@ifokr.org> <4877c76c0907292242g70a082f7o8ff36c0f13f27b2f@mail.gmail.com> <20090730133546.GU5303@ifokr.org> Message-ID: <4A72F640.70001@foster.cc> Brian Hatch wrote: >> The problem with more detailed GPG commands is that while there is a >> standard interface on the command line, it's not the one most users will >> ever see. There are an unfortunate number of choices for Linux, and several >> for windows (which I rarely ever boot in to). >> > > I noticed that Chronomex has some info on our very own gslug wiki: > http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/User:Chronomex > > As for a key-signing, it's been something that folks seem to mention informally but seems to me that needs to be more formal to gain any participation. Designating someone to "lead" the key-signing is probably what makes sense. From fcp at wittykids.com Fri Jul 31 08:33:55 2009 From: fcp at wittykids.com (Frank Paterra) Date: Fri Jul 31 08:34:04 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Fwd: Looking for a linix/apache/tomcat build and deployment expert In-Reply-To: <39295f3a0907301113m2a276cf4gd24e6cb1b7a295ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <39295f3a0907301113m2a276cf4gd24e6cb1b7a295ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39295f3a0907310833p14f9e342oc8a704e6f225943@mail.gmail.com> I did not see that this went through, did anyone get it? Any recommendations for me? Thanks! Frank ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Frank Paterra Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM Subject: Looking for a linix/apache/tomcat build and deployment expert To: gslug-general@gslug.org Hi All. ?I have a short term need for an expert to help us out with a pretty new startup/offering. ?Can I get a recommendation for a good person available contract? We are using using Eclipse, Ant for dev/building tools. ?We need someone to build us a bullet proof tomcat config file and a bullet proof ant script for build/deployment. Thanks in advance! -- Frank Paterra fcp@wittykids.com -- Frank Paterra fcp@wittykids.com From mjevans1983 at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 16:05:55 2009 From: mjevans1983 at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri Jul 31 16:13:42 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Peer review possible presentation for 2009/8/8 In-Reply-To: <4A72F640.70001@foster.cc> References: <4877c76c0907291028m9b6fd06yfa8e1d7d240624b4@mail.gmail.com> <20090729193529.GK15435@ifokr.org> <4877c76c0907292242g70a082f7o8ff36c0f13f27b2f@mail.gmail.com> <20090730133546.GU5303@ifokr.org> <4A72F640.70001@foster.cc> Message-ID: <4877c76c0907311605l1d4be46fw5d6a11dffb2f976a@mail.gmail.com> I wouldn't mind leading a keysigning at the -next- gslug meeting, but I'm hesitant to commit to anything farther in the future than that. I'm unsure if I'll finally be hired someplace, be able to reach the next meeting at an unknown location (were we able to get the Ballard library again, I don't clearly recall if the answer was yes.), or have knowledge if I'll be available that day or not. I think we should make keysigning an event at -every- gslug and have a primary and backup coordinator for the keysigning event at the next meeting. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Mark Foster wrote: > Brian Hatch wrote: > >> The problem with more detailed GPG commands is that while there is a >>> standard interface on the command line, it's not the one most users will >>> ever see. There are an unfortunate number of choices for Linux, and >>> several >>> for windows (which I rarely ever boot in to). >>> >>> >> >> I noticed that Chronomex has some info on our very own gslug wiki: >> http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/User:Chronomex >> >> >> > As for a key-signing, it's been something that folks seem to mention > informally but seems to me that needs to be more formal to gain any > participation. Designating someone to "lead" the key-signing is probably > what makes sense. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090731/ed1b27f2/attachment.htm From mjevans1983 at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 19:09:20 2009 From: mjevans1983 at gmail.com (Michael Evans) Date: Fri Jul 31 19:09:25 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Peer review possible presentation for 2009/8/8 In-Reply-To: <4877c76c0907311605l1d4be46fw5d6a11dffb2f976a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4877c76c0907291028m9b6fd06yfa8e1d7d240624b4@mail.gmail.com> <20090729193529.GK15435@ifokr.org> <4877c76c0907292242g70a082f7o8ff36c0f13f27b2f@mail.gmail.com> <20090730133546.GU5303@ifokr.org> <4A72F640.70001@foster.cc> <4877c76c0907311605l1d4be46fw5d6a11dffb2f976a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4877c76c0907311909s23885c71h6dd04e1f2379d9f8@mail.gmail.com> This link is setup for anyone to share. I had to export it to ppt for google-docs to import it, but I wasn't using anything fancy anyway. After there are no more edits prior to presentation I'll publish it permanently, probably with a CC3 license. http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AbXltWftDDMAZGh0cmNwY3RfMGN3dno0c2Zy&hl=en On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Michael Evans wrote: > I wouldn't mind leading a keysigning at the -next- gslug meeting, but I'm > hesitant to commit to anything farther in the future than that. I'm unsure > if I'll finally be hired someplace, be able to reach the next meeting at an > unknown location (were we able to get the Ballard library again, I don't > clearly recall if the answer was yes.), or have knowledge if I'll be > available that day or not. > > I think we should make keysigning an event at -every- gslug and have a > primary and backup coordinator for the keysigning event at the next meeting. > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Mark Foster wrote: > >> Brian Hatch wrote: >> >>> The problem with more detailed GPG commands is that while there is a >>>> standard interface on the command line, it's not the one most users will >>>> ever see. There are an unfortunate number of choices for Linux, and >>>> several >>>> for windows (which I rarely ever boot in to). >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I noticed that Chronomex has some info on our very own gslug wiki: >>> http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/User:Chronomex >>> >>> >>> >> As for a key-signing, it's been something that folks seem to mention >> informally but seems to me that needs to be more formal to gain any >> participation. Designating someone to "lead" the key-signing is probably >> what makes sense. >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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