From dcjohan at bmi.net Sun Mar 1 09:09:52 2009 From: dcjohan at bmi.net (Dave Johanson) Date: Sun Mar 1 09:05:45 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] KDE Problem In-Reply-To: References: <49A6CD2C.1050102@bmi.net> <49A6D407.9060403@foster.cc> <49A73247.1060904@bmi.net> Message-ID: <49AAC160.9020101@bmi.net> Thanks Eric, I'll go that route if I have any further problems; for now, it all appears to be working. dave Eric Butler wrote: > You can install the "kubuntu-desktop" package, which will pull in all > required KDE packages. > > - Eric > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Dave Johanson > wrote: > > Mark Foster wrote: >> Dave Johanson wrote: >>> I did an update to the system (Ubuntu 8.10) last night which >>> said it went well with no problems. It lied. This morning when I >>> tried to boot into my default KDE desktop I got the follow error >>> message and failure to boot into the KDE desktop although the >>> gnome desktop works fine. >>> >>> Xsession: unable to launch x session - - - "/usr/bin/startkde" >>> not found, falling back to default session. >>> >>> It's true, startkde is not to be found in /usr/bin, but I have >>> no idea as to how that got lost, what it contains, or what to >>> write to replace it. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. >>> >> According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ this file is in package >> kde-workspace-bin >> Hint: I used the "'search the contents of package" form with >> keyword: kdestart >> >> Share with us the output of: dpkg -l | grep kde >> You might also try: sudo aptitude install kde-workspace-bin >> >> > I tried that search - or at least I think I did - as shown below > and got the same response for all 3 radio buttons: >> >> You have searched for filenames that contain /kdestart/ in suite >> /intrepid/, all sections, and all architectures. >> >> Sorry, your search gave no results >> > So I must be doing something incorrectly. > > > Search the contents of packages > > This search engine allows you to search the contents of Ubuntu > distributions for any files (or just parts of file names) that are > part of packages. You can also get a full list of files in a given > package. > > Keyword: kdestart > Display: > packages that contain files named like this > packages that contain files whose names end with the keyword > packages that contain files whose names contain the keyword > > In any event, I've attached the output of dpkg -l | grep kde as > "output-kde.rtf. The info didn't make any sense to me, but then, > I have no idea as to what I'm looking to find. > > sudo aptitude install kde-workspace-bin responded with: > can't find any package whose name or description matched > "kde-workspace-bin" > > So I fired up synaptic and looked for everything KDE that I > thought might be useful and installed it. Now it boots into the > KDE desktop. I'm certainly not confident in what I did because I > saw no package that in any way even remotely looked like > "kde-workspace-bin" but apparently I got enough stuff to make it > work. > > Thanks to all for the suggestions; they got me thinking at least. > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > > From john_re at fastmail.us Wed Mar 4 06:33:47 2009 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Wed Mar 4 21:02:11 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Global Linux Meeting March 7 Sat BerkeleyTIP -Global - For Forwarding Message-ID: <1236177227.10923.1303591191@webmail.messagingengine.com> Ekiga(Gnome meeting), Asterisk, Xen, Virtualbox, Debian 15 Years, Free and Open Future, Amarok, ZFS, FreeBSD, Python, OLPC ===== SCHEDULE Schedule: All times Pacific Std Time = GMT -8H ex: 10A PST = 1P Eastern ST 10 A Begin: Set up. Get on IRC & VOIP 11 A Ekiga3 talk LIVE INSTALLFEST begin 12 N Asterisk, OLPC; PROGRAMMING PARTY: VOIP Conference client & server 1 P Xen, Virtualbox; GNOME 2 P KDE ? GUI; Macintosh 3 P Debian; BSD; College & University groups 4 P Free & Open Future; Culture; Hardware 5 P LIGHTNING TALKS Python; INetWebDev; Local Simultaneous Meetings Arrangements ===== PHYSICAL LOCATION: UC Berkeley FREE SPEECH CAFE At Moffitt Undergrad Library. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=37.872558,-122.260795&spn=0.001776,0.002529&z=19 http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/directions BART: Berkeley Downtown Station. Caltrain: Berkeley Station, bus up University to campus. Car: 880 Freeway, University Exit. ===== IRC & VOIP Join IRC freenode.net #berkeleytip, & we'll help you get on VOIP http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance ===== Come to the: Great global meeting planned for this Saturday! :) Yes! 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Talks, Installfest, Potluck & ProgrammingParty Educational, Productive, Social http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ ===== TALKS: 11A LIVE, - DOWNLOAD & WATCH VIDEOS BEFORE Ekiga 3 on KUbuntu 8.04 - Chaitanya Mehandru, LIVE 11AM PST = GMT -8H Asterisk Free Software Telephone System - Paul Charles Leddy, NYLUG-08 Xen Virtualization - Ian Pratt, FOSDEM-08 Virtualbox, Achim Hasenmueller, FOSDEM-08 Debian, Bdale Garbee, FOSDEM-09 Free and Open Future - Mark Surman, FOSDEM-09 Amarok v2 - Akademy-08 Debian: 15 Years and Counting - Steve McIntyre, Debconf-08 - Keynote ZFS for FreeBSD - Pawel Jakub Dawidek, MeetBSD-08 Python on the OLPC laptop - Ed Cherlin, BayPIGgies-08 Links to the videos & more info here: http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/talk-videos Suggestion: Download & watch the videos _you_ are interested in _before_ the meeting, so you can spend the scheduled topic time _discussing_ that talk. All the talk/video speakers are invited to join in for Q&A & discussion. [Please pass that word on to the speakers, because I probably wont have time to notify them individually.] Thanks to all the speakerz, videographerz, & sponsoring groupiez. :) & doubble plus big thanks to David Fox, r noo talk/vid finder/scheduler. :) == LIGHTNING TALKS - 5PM - Sign up anytime. ===== PROGRAMMING PARTY: 1) Help get Ekiga 3 compiled, running & packaged for KUbuntu8.04 2) Help get a local Asterisk VOIP conference server working. 3) Whatever _you_ are interested in - Email the list inviting us to join on your project. :) ===== PEOPLE ARE TALKING: Chris said: the meeting went very well for Feb. 7. Windsor said: I am interested in Jack's idea of focusing a group on promotion of Linux as a desktop operating system and targeting perspective Linux users. I'm enthusiastic about doing something to this effect, like hosting an install night, standing in Sproul Plaza near a card table, etc.. 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C-ya there :) From jtgray79 at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 17:58:32 2009 From: jtgray79 at gmail.com (JT Gray) Date: Sat Mar 7 17:54:32 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Interactive Kernel Map Message-ID: <8f0a49800903071758s3397f263od2ebfbc6e2103598@mail.gmail.com> Just found this through the LDN site: http://www.makelinux.net/kernel_map(orig link to it: http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/article/interactive-map-linux-kernel). Interesting to look at, though the UI isn't ideal for navigating the chart. Still, I like being able to see information presented in different formats. I hadn't seen (or noticed anyway) this site, makelinux.net, before, but they have a few handy charts and diagrams of Linux/FOSS software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From davidm777 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 11 17:31:37 2009 From: davidm777 at yahoo.com (David) Date: Wed Mar 11 17:27:37 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 Message-ID: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Having just enough information to make me confident to try things I should not be doing... I am volunteering for an organization that has 'free wifi' but blocks just about every port.? I need to SSH into my work box, for which I have pretty extensive control over the network & firewall. The extent of my knowledge has led me to the following 'solution': I set my SSH port to listen on port 443 since this port is not locked by the 'free wifi' provider (Note: my work does not host any 'secure' pages so hijacking this port does not thwart any current(!) activity). I'm feeling like I don't know what I don't know, so I'm asking if this is a really bad idea? David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090311/a9d08b9e/attachment.htm From paul.bartell at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 17:34:33 2009 From: paul.bartell at gmail.com (Paul Bartell) Date: Wed Mar 11 17:30:25 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2b5bab0f0903111734n7b246c7ay8f3b1bde4d6f2ff8@mail.gmail.com> A bad idea? no. People do it all the time. Something you might want to consider though is if your work ever does want to host secure pages, someone is going to be asking questions. It might be something you want to do at home instead. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, David wrote: > Having just enough information to make me confident to try things I should > not be doing... > > I am volunteering for an organization that has 'free wifi' but blocks just > about every port.? I need to SSH into my work box, for which I have pretty > extensive control over the network & firewall. > > The extent of my knowledge has led me to the following 'solution': I set my > SSH port to listen on port 443 since this port is not locked by the 'free > wifi' provider (Note: my work does not host any 'secure' pages so hijacking > this port does not thwart any current(!) activity). > > I'm feeling like I don't know what I don't know, so I'm asking if this is a > really bad idea? > > David > > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Random quote of the week/month/whenever i get to updating it: "Opportunity knocked. My doorman threw him out." - Adrienne Gusoff "At school you don't get parole, good behavior only brings a longer sentence." - The History Boys From andrew at sweger.net Wed Mar 11 19:30:42 2009 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Wed Mar 11 19:43:23 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, David wrote: > The extent of my knowledge has led me to the following 'solution': I > set my SSH port to listen on port 443 since this port is not locked by > the 'free wifi' provider (Note: my work does not host any 'secure' > pages so hijacking this port does not thwart any current(!) activity). > > I'm feeling like I don't know what I don't know, so I'm asking if this > is a really bad idea? Aside from any future need to serve web pages over SSL, this is a fine idea. I've used it on spare IPs myself so I can get to my hosts from corporate networks that block just about all outbound connections. 443 is a difficult port to justify blocking since it's mostly line noise but seemingly necessary to conduct business. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From ashex at chipnick.com Wed Mar 11 22:15:44 2009 From: ashex at chipnick.com (Ahmed Osman) Date: Wed Mar 11 22:11:46 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Could also consider using Stunnel[1]. I've read up on it a bit but never actually implemented it, sounds like this is the perfect scenario for its application. [1] http://www.stunnel.org/ -Ahmed Osman On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Andrew Sweger wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, David wrote: > > > The extent of my knowledge has led me to the following 'solution': I > > set my SSH port to listen on port 443 since this port is not locked by > > the 'free wifi' provider (Note: my work does not host any 'secure' > > pages so hijacking this port does not thwart any current(!) activity). > > > > I'm feeling like I don't know what I don't know, so I'm asking if this > > is a really bad idea? > > Aside from any future need to serve web pages over SSL, this is a fine > idea. I've used it on spare IPs myself so I can get to my hosts from > corporate networks that block just about all outbound connections. 443 is > a difficult port to justify blocking since it's mostly line noise but > seemingly necessary to conduct business. > > -- > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > things can go wrong at once. > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090311/0fd3f80f/attachment.html From jakykong at theanythingbox.com Wed Mar 11 23:18:50 2009 From: jakykong at theanythingbox.com (Jack T Mudge III) Date: Thu Mar 12 02:01:37 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> On Wednesday 11 March 2009 10:15:44 pm Ahmed Osman wrote: > Could also consider using Stunnel[1]. I've read up on it a bit but never > actually implemented it, sounds like this is the perfect scenario for its > application. > > > [1] http://www.stunnel.org/ > -Ahmed Osman > Isn't SSH already encrypted? Wrapping it in (another) SSL layer won't solve the port problem in any event. Just setting SSH to port 443 seems like a fine idea to me, but another interesting idea could be to tunnel SSH over HTTPS. Which has already been done: http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ By the looks of it, you could do this alongside another HTTPS application, so it would also solve potential problems with that sort of conflict. -- Sincerely, Jack Mudge jakykong@theanythingbox.com From daleville at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 08:11:56 2009 From: daleville at gmail.com (daleville@gmail.com) Date: Thu Mar 12 08:08:37 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> Message-ID: <49B9263C.2000104@gmail.com> Something I've done in the past was push a port out from behind a firewall using a tunnel. There was no way to open a port behind the firewall and most ports were blocked going out (though you only need one). # from a machine within your organizations network ssh -N -f -R 50000:work_host_name:22 external_host_name Leave off the -N and the -f if you want the port forwarding ssh session to stay in the foreground and actually provide a shell. As is it will simply set up the port forward then background. This will tunnel all requests made to port 50000 on your external host to your work machine's port 22. So you could ssh to you work machine using: ssh -p 50000 external_host_name Jack T Mudge III wrote, On 03/11/2009 11:18 PM: > On Wednesday 11 March 2009 10:15:44 pm Ahmed Osman wrote: >> Could also consider using Stunnel[1]. I've read up on it a bit but never >> actually implemented it, sounds like this is the perfect scenario for its >> application. >> >> >> [1] http://www.stunnel.org/ >> -Ahmed Osman >> > > Isn't SSH already encrypted? Wrapping it in (another) SSL layer won't solve > the port problem in any event. Just setting SSH to port 443 seems like a fine > idea to me, but another interesting idea could be to tunnel SSH over HTTPS. > Which has already been done: http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ > > By the looks of it, you could do this alongside another HTTPS application, so > it would also solve potential problems with that sort of conflict. > > > From ashex at chipnick.com Thu Mar 12 08:16:55 2009 From: ashex at chipnick.com (Ahmed Osman) Date: Thu Mar 12 08:19:54 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> Message-ID: That's exactly what Stunnel does, that tutorial just uses another method of ssl tunneling. Tunnelling is nothing more then wrapping one protocol inside another. -Ahmed Osman > Isn't SSH already encrypted? Wrapping it in (another) SSL layer won't solve > the port problem in any event. Just setting SSH to port 443 seems like a > fine > idea to me, but another interesting idea could be to tunnel SSH over HTTPS. > Which has already been done: > http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ > > By the looks of it, you could do this alongside another HTTPS application, > so > it would also solve potential problems with that sort of conflict. > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Jack Mudge > jakykong@theanythingbox.com > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090312/37299832/attachment.htm From dereks at realloc.net Thu Mar 12 11:00:57 2009 From: dereks at realloc.net (Derek Simkowiak) Date: Thu Mar 12 10:57:01 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: <49B9263C.2000104@gmail.com> References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> <49B9263C.2000104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B94DD9.9030704@realloc.net> I've done something similar: I set up an SSH tunnel from a customer's office to my internal network, with this command: ssh -f -N -o "ServerAliveInterval 60" -i /root/.ssh/id_rsa -R9622:127.0.0.1:22 customer@my.domain.com Then, when I need to connect to the client's box, I do something like "ssh -p 9622 -l username localhost" on my internal box, and it establishes a new SSH connection through the first SSH tunnel. The advantage is that no firewall changes are necessary on the customer's network. They don't even need a fixed IP address; the tunnel gets set up at boot time in /etc/rc.local, so even if they connect from a tradeshow (or Internet cafe) I can still work on their box. The "ServerAliveInterval" option prevents timeouts/disconnects due to no traffic. But I've found that if the TCP/IP connection dies, the SSH process dies too, so putting the above command in a BASH while loop is necessary (so that it gets automatically restarted if it dies). --Derek On 03/12/2009 08:11 AM, daleville@gmail.com wrote: > Something I've done in the past was push a port out from behind a > firewall using a tunnel. There was no way to open a port behind the > firewall and most ports were blocked going out (though you only need one). > > # from a machine within your organizations network > ssh -N -f -R 50000:work_host_name:22 external_host_name > > Leave off the -N and the -f if you want the port forwarding ssh session > to stay in the foreground and actually provide a shell. As is it will > simply set up the port forward then background. > > This will tunnel all requests made to port 50000 on your external host > to your work machine's port 22. > > So you could ssh to you work machine using: > ssh -p 50000 external_host_name > > Jack T Mudge III wrote, On 03/11/2009 11:18 PM: > >> On Wednesday 11 March 2009 10:15:44 pm Ahmed Osman wrote: >> >>> Could also consider using Stunnel[1]. I've read up on it a bit but never >>> actually implemented it, sounds like this is the perfect scenario for its >>> application. >>> >>> >>> [1] http://www.stunnel.org/ >>> -Ahmed Osman >>> >>> >> Isn't SSH already encrypted? Wrapping it in (another) SSL layer won't solve >> the port problem in any event. Just setting SSH to port 443 seems like a fine >> idea to me, but another interesting idea could be to tunnel SSH over HTTPS. >> Which has already been done: http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ >> >> By the looks of it, you could do this alongside another HTTPS application, so >> it would also solve potential problems with that sort of conflict. >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090312/84b4e22d/attachment-0001.html From tcolar at colar.net Thu Mar 12 11:04:50 2009 From: tcolar at colar.net (Thibaut Colar) Date: Thu Mar 12 11:22:17 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] SSH on port 443 In-Reply-To: References: <804482.95335.qm@web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200903112318.51369.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> Message-ID: <49B94EC2.6000400@colar.net> For what you want to do a plain ssh server should be fine. A tunnel program (which typically just reroute traffic through a connection, like an SSL link) can be nice to have if you need a more powerful/permanent solution(like running a server behind it etc...). Few years back i had an ISP that was blocking just about anything, and i setup such a tunnel(vtun) which would just come up at boot, with this you are basically able to reroute all traffic through the tunnel and basically bypass any restriction, since you can basically bypass their firewall, gateway, content filter etc.... Of course that also means you have to think about security when using a tunnel, since you are basically providing a bypass to your network from the other end of the tunnel. Ahmed Osman wrote: > That's exactly what Stunnel does, that tutorial just uses another > method of ssl tunneling. Tunnelling is nothing more then wrapping one > protocol inside another. > > -Ahmed Osman > > > > Isn't SSH already encrypted? Wrapping it in (another) SSL layer > won't solve > the port problem in any event. Just setting SSH to port 443 seems > like a fine > idea to me, but another interesting idea could be to tunnel SSH > over HTTPS. > Which has already been done: > http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ > > By the looks of it, you could do this alongside another HTTPS > application, so > it would also solve potential problems with that sort of conflict. > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Jack Mudge > jakykong@theanythingbox.com > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. -- Adios, Chris Cornuelle From pencil_pusher at hotmail.com Wed Mar 18 12:25:46 2009 From: pencil_pusher at hotmail.com (David Hamilton) Date: Wed Mar 18 12:21:34 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] USB drive for multi-PC backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Parted Magic is free, though I don't know how to make each partition bootable for the usb drive http://partedmagic.com/ Macles has a free solution for the Aspire One which supposedly carries over to other machines: http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/12/acer-aspire-one-aa1backup.html But if it's just material, maybe just format the drive fat32 and plop stuff in different folders? > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:02:46 -0700 > From: chriscornuelle@gmail.com > To: gslug-general@gslug.org > Subject: [Gslug-general] USB drive for multi-PC backups > > Aloha. > > I have a USB HDD and several machines which I would like to backup > onto it. One PC > has a real OS, and the rest run courtesy of those fine folks in > Redmond. My thought was > to format the USB drive, then plug it into successive machines, > backing off material as > desired, each into a separate partition. I find burning DVDs to be > tedious, so this may > make me do backups more regularly ... > > Is this how best to arrange this? No, I'm not going to get a shared > network drive. :^) > > Will it be fairly easy to make each partition bootable as well? > > Any good links on this topic would be much appreciated, as my poking about has > been as fruitless as it usually is. > > Thanks. > > -- > Adios, > Chris Cornuelle > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090318/c48ffbe0/attachment.html From benjamin at seattlefenix.net Wed Mar 18 13:54:38 2009 From: benjamin at seattlefenix.net (Benjamin Krueger) Date: Wed Mar 18 13:56:21 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] USB drive for multi-PC backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C15F8E.8020305@seattlefenix.net> David Hamilton wrote: > Parted Magic is free, though I don't know how to make each partition > bootable for the usb drive http://partedmagic.com/ > > > Macles has a free solution for the Aspire One which supposedly carries > over to other machines: > http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/12/acer-aspire-one-aa1backup.html > > But if it's just material, maybe just format the drive fat32 and plop > stuff in different folders? This is the method I use for my own USB backup drive. It's very effective. Partition the drive with a fat32 filesystem and then use rdiff-backup to take the backups into different root directories, perhaps named after the machine being backed up. rdiff-backup is nice because it handles all of the common operating systems in an intelligent manner, provides incremental backups automatically, and is very easy to use. -- Benjamin Krueger From konrad at tylerc.org Wed Mar 18 14:16:50 2009 From: konrad at tylerc.org (Conrad Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 18 14:12:44 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] USB drive for multi-PC backups In-Reply-To: <49C15F8E.8020305@seattlefenix.net> References: <49C15F8E.8020305@seattlefenix.net> Message-ID: <200903181416.51065.konrad@tylerc.org> On Wednesday 18 March 2009 01:54:38 pm Benjamin Krueger wrote: > David Hamilton wrote: > > Parted Magic is free, though I don't know how to make each partition > > bootable for the usb drive http://partedmagic.com/ > > > > > > Macles has a free solution for the Aspire One which supposedly carries > > over to other machines: > > http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/12/acer-aspire-one-aa1backup.html > > > > But if it's just material, maybe just format the drive fat32 and plop > > stuff in different folders? > > This is the method I use for my own USB backup drive. It's very effective. > > Partition the drive with a fat32 filesystem and then use rdiff-backup to > take the backups into different root directories, perhaps named after > the machine being backed up. rdiff-backup is nice because it handles all > of the common operating systems in an intelligent manner, provides > incremental backups automatically, and is very easy to use. You might want to use NTFS instead of Fat32 if you are backing up files larger than 4GiB. FUSE-NTFS works quite well in my experience, so you can use it from Windows and Lunix. Regards, -- Conrad Meyer From paul at eucleides.com Wed Mar 18 15:28:27 2009 From: paul at eucleides.com (Paul Franz) Date: Wed Mar 18 15:55:43 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] USB drive for multi-PC backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2619.192.168.0.66.1237415307.squirrel@eucleides.com> On Wed, March 18, 2009 11:02 am, Chris Cornuelle wrote: > Aloha. > > I have a USB HDD and several machines which I would like to backup > onto it. One PC > has a real OS, and the rest run courtesy of those fine folks in > Redmond. My thought was > to format the USB drive, then plug it into successive machines, > backing off material as > desired, each into a separate partition. I find burning DVDs to be > tedious, so this may > make me do backups more regularly ... You can use Ping to backup whole bootable images of any OS partition or drive. It will write them to compressed files on your USB drive just fine. You can similarly restore them as needed too. -- Paul Franz The Audacity of Being Democrat... "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before". -- Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel "Over the next several months, the President will propose a series of legislative and enforcement measures to reduce such U.S. tax evasion and avoidance". -- Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner (who recently had to pay $34,000 in back taxes.) From chriscornuelle at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 10:03:57 2009 From: chriscornuelle at gmail.com (Chris Cornuelle) Date: Thu Mar 19 10:32:43 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: USB drive for multi-PC backups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for all the advice. Should be an adventure in storage. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Chris Cornuelle wrote: > Aloha. > > I have a USB HDD and several machines which I would like to backup > onto it. ?One PC > has a real OS, and the rest run courtesy of those fine folks in > Redmond. ?My thought was > to format the USB drive, then plug it into successive machines, > backing off material as > desired, each into a separate partition. ?I find burning DVDs to be > tedious, so this may > make me do backups more regularly ... > > Is this how best to arrange this? ?No, I'm not going to get a shared > network drive. ?:^) > > Will it be fairly easy to make each partition bootable as well? > > Any good links on this topic would be much appreciated, as my poking about has > been as fruitless as it usually is. > > Thanks. -- Adios, Chris Cornuelle From heckj at mac.com Fri Mar 20 17:57:45 2009 From: heckj at mac.com (Joseph Heck) Date: Fri Mar 20 18:53:43 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Hiring at Disney (in Seattle) Message-ID: <71169420-C4A6-4622-86E8-54E4E20FC043@mac.com> Afternoon, Hopefully this isn't verboten - I wanted to post up that I'm hiring (as in I'm the hiring manager) at Disney for a tools/automation engineer. I'm specifically looking for someone very comfortable with the open source world and tools, proficiency as an open source developer a bonus but not mandatory, and interested in working with some very large and complex problem domains. In all fairness, I have to report that this is a heterogenous environment - 50/50 windows and linux - so it's not a "pure linux" job. The team I'm running works in technical operations, driving forward and creating the automation behind some of the largest media sites on the Internet. You can see the job posting online at https://disney.recruitmax.com/main/careerportal/Job_Profile.cfm?szOrderID=190328 . -joe http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/ From lee at colleton.net Tue Mar 24 07:51:29 2009 From: lee at colleton.net (Lee Colleton) Date: Tue Mar 24 07:47:21 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] For sale: HTC G1 phone $300 (SIM unlocked) In-Reply-To: <59c88c4d0903240740p305dcafbm2d6d2ffd694c3a93@mail.gmail.com> References: <59c88c4d0903092002j58c02598oa4f9cb81716ad428@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240740p305dcafbm2d6d2ffd694c3a93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <59c88c4d0903240751l4c8f8c43g360bcf0158928d97@mail.gmail.com> Plays nice with Linux, mounts SD card as a mass storage device over USB. Also has SDK available. 3g service will only work with T-Mobile, but can use EDGE data service on any network and WiFi anywhere. SIM unlocking allows phone use on any GSM network. Cheers, Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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SIM unlocking allows phone use on any GSM > network. > > Cheers, > Lee Is this a developer phone or a regular one that has been... modified? From lee.colleton at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 09:44:04 2009 From: lee.colleton at gmail.com (Lee Colleton) Date: Tue Mar 24 09:39:56 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] For sale: HTC G1 phone $300 (SIM unlocked) In-Reply-To: <456dee40903240840t6e46232eg416cd3b31e8d0bad@mail.gmail.com> References: <59c88c4d0903092002j58c02598oa4f9cb81716ad428@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240740p305dcafbm2d6d2ffd694c3a93@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240751l4c8f8c43g360bcf0158928d97@mail.gmail.com> <456dee40903240840t6e46232eg416cd3b31e8d0bad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <59c88c4d0903240944w4a073fb1pf5d8fe1a6d724bd8@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:40, Rob Smith wrote: > > Is this a developer phone or a regular one that has been... modified? > This is an ordinary T-Mobile G1[1], not a "hardware unlocked" developer phone as available from the Android Market. 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URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090324/47d48ffc/attachment.html From daleville at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 09:51:44 2009 From: daleville at gmail.com (daleville@gmail.com) Date: Tue Mar 24 09:48:20 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] For sale: HTC G1 phone $300 (SIM unlocked) In-Reply-To: <59c88c4d0903240944w4a073fb1pf5d8fe1a6d724bd8@mail.gmail.com> References: <59c88c4d0903092002j58c02598oa4f9cb81716ad428@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240740p305dcafbm2d6d2ffd694c3a93@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240751l4c8f8c43g360bcf0158928d97@mail.gmail.com> <456dee40903240840t6e46232eg416cd3b31e8d0bad@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240944w4a073fb1pf5d8fe1a6d724bd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C90FA0.8090608@gmail.com> Installing the developer boot loader on a normal G1 isn't difficult. I installed a modified developer boot loader on the one I own. I found my G1 on craigslist brand new for $250. You can find them even cheaper. Lee Colleton wrote, On 03/24/2009 09:44 AM: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:40, Rob Smith > wrote: > > > Is this a developer phone or a regular one that has been... modified? > > > This is an ordinary T-Mobile G1[1], not a "hardware unlocked" developer > phone as available from the Android Market. You can still develop apps > with the SDK and install them on the handset. A developer key is only > needed for signing apps if you want to put them on the Market. > > [1]http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html#g1 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From lee.colleton at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 11:24:25 2009 From: lee.colleton at gmail.com (Lee Colleton) Date: Tue Mar 24 11:20:13 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] For sale: HTC G1 phone $300 (SIM unlocked) In-Reply-To: <49C90FA0.8090608@gmail.com> References: <59c88c4d0903092002j58c02598oa4f9cb81716ad428@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240740p305dcafbm2d6d2ffd694c3a93@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240751l4c8f8c43g360bcf0158928d97@mail.gmail.com> <456dee40903240840t6e46232eg416cd3b31e8d0bad@mail.gmail.com> <59c88c4d0903240944w4a073fb1pf5d8fe1a6d724bd8@mail.gmail.com> <49C90FA0.8090608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59c88c4d0903241124l6aa2acc4he0fe5912e60cc34b@mail.gmail.com> True, I should have asked for a lower price. Do I hear $250? I posted this to Craigslist over a month ago but had only spam and solicitations by frauds in reply. I guess I'll give that another go. --Lee On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:51, wrote: > Installing the developer boot loader on a normal G1 isn't difficult. I > installed a modified developer boot loader on the one I own. > > I found my G1 on craigslist brand new for $250. You can find them even > cheaper. > > Lee Colleton wrote, On 03/24/2009 09:44 AM: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:40, Rob Smith > > wrote: > > > > > > Is this a developer phone or a regular one that has been... modified? > > > > > > This is an ordinary T-Mobile G1[1], not a "hardware unlocked" developer > > phone as available from the Android Market. You can still develop apps > > with the SDK and install them on the handset. 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URL: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090324/42887736/attachment.htm From jeremiahjester at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 11:21:13 2009 From: jeremiahjester at gmail.com (Jeremiah Jester) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:17:04 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora Message-ID: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? # apt-get install mysql-server Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done mysql-server is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. # mysql -V mysql Ver 11.18 Distrib 3.23.58, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) # cat /etc/*release Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) LSB_VERSION="1.3" Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) Appreciate your help. Thanks, JJ From jarod at wilsonet.com Wed Mar 25 11:26:31 2009 From: jarod at wilsonet.com (Jarod Wilson) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:22:27 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the > most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an > install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent > versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora > Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. -- Jarod Wilson jarod@wilsonet.com From btm at loftninjas.org Wed Mar 25 11:29:24 2009 From: btm at loftninjas.org (Bryan McLellan) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:25:12 2009 Subject: Fwd: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <893823750903251125j577785f7m4481b08defe27e70@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <893823750903251125j577785f7m4481b08defe27e70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <893823750903251129h2b522a4fg1132233727d220fe@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bryan McLellan Date: Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora To: Jeremiah Jester On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the > most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an > install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent > versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora > Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? I'm not a redhat person, and neither is apt really, but you'll find you'll need to 'apt-get update' first to get an updated list of packages. Secondly, when it says up to date, it's saying the packages it can find in it's repositories (usually /etc/apt/sources.list) aren't any newer than those installed. Your version of FC may be end of life, you probably need to upgrade the entire distribution. From jeremiahjester at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 11:38:24 2009 From: jeremiahjester at gmail.com (Jeremiah Jester) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:34:11 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> Also, can i upgrade the distro via the cmd line? These are remote machines and don't have an option of physical access to a cdrom drive. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my > other cmds. > > I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time > being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on > these via other means? > > Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? > > JJ > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >> >> Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. >> It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. >> >> -- >> Jarod Wilson >> jarod@wilsonet.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> > From jeremiahjester at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 11:34:49 2009 From: jeremiahjester at gmail.com (Jeremiah Jester) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:36:47 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> Message-ID: <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my other cmds. I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on these via other means? Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? JJ On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? > > Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. > It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. > > -- > Jarod Wilson > jarod@wilsonet.com > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > From jtg at intarcorp.com Wed Mar 25 11:43:08 2009 From: jtg at intarcorp.com (Jeremiah T. Gray) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:38:59 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0749AA65-4A1F-4386-B017-F0B2300AD71E@intarcorp.com> Why are you using apt and not yum with Fedora? On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my > other cmds. > > I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time > being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on > these via other means? > > Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? > > JJ > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson > wrote: >> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages >>> to the >>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most >>> recent >>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >> >> Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out >> of date. >> It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. >> >> -- >> Jarod Wilson >> jarod@wilsonet.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From paul.bartell at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 11:49:42 2009 From: paul.bartell at gmail.com (Paul Bartell) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:45:27 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> To upgrade using apt, you would change your apt sources to the next distro version and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . In my limited experience with rpm based distros, shouldn't you be using yum? (or did they use apt that many releses ago?) On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Also, can i upgrade the distro via the cmd line? These are remote > machines and don't have an option of physical access to a cdrom drive. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeremiah Jester > wrote: >> Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my >> other cmds. >> >> I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time >> being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on >> these via other means? >> >> Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? >> >> JJ >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >>> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >>>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >>>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >>> >>> Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. >>> It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. >>> >>> -- >>> Jarod Wilson >>> jarod@wilsonet.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gslug-general mailing list >>> Gslug-general@gslug.org >>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Random quote of the week/month/whenever i get to updating it: "Opportunity knocked. My doorman threw him out." - Adrienne Gusoff "At school you don't get parole, good behavior only brings a longer sentence." - The History Boys From jeremiahjester at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 11:50:48 2009 From: jeremiahjester at gmail.com (Jeremiah Jester) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:46:34 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <0749AA65-4A1F-4386-B017-F0B2300AD71E@intarcorp.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <0749AA65-4A1F-4386-B017-F0B2300AD71E@intarcorp.com> Message-ID: <2d4ba7ab0903251150t520bb766xfb35b31dc6162940@mail.gmail.com> Another Jeremiah, I see :) I futzed around with yum but doesn't work for me. Haven't used red hat in years... Ideas? # yum update Repository updates-released already added, not adding again Repository base already added, not adding again Setting up Update Process Setting up Repos development 100% |=========================| 3.4 kB 00:00 google 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00 http://directory.fedoraproject.org/yum/dirsrv/fedora/3/noarch/RPMS/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: dirsrv-noarch failure: repodata/repomd.xml from dirsrv-noarch: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: > Why are you using apt and not yum with Fedora? > > > On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > >> Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my >> other cmds. >> >> I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time >> being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on >> these via other means? >> >> Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? >> >> JJ >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >>>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >>>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >>> >>> Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. >>> It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. >>> >>> -- >>> Jarod Wilson >>> jarod@wilsonet.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gslug-general mailing list >>> Gslug-general@gslug.org >>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > > From btm at loftninjas.org Wed Mar 25 11:53:52 2009 From: btm at loftninjas.org (Bryan McLellan) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:49:38 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251150t520bb766xfb35b31dc6162940@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <0749AA65-4A1F-4386-B017-F0B2300AD71E@intarcorp.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251150t520bb766xfb35b31dc6162940@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <893823750903251153v21aebbe3ua3a00372386a16d0@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/yum/dirsrv/fedora/3/noarch/RPMS/repodata/repomd.xml: > [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found > Trying other mirror. Likely because it's EOL like Jarod said. Most of your questions should be answered by the internet: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq I would definitely stick to using yum and not apt on an rpm based distro if you're not an expert with both. From ashex at chipnick.com Wed Mar 25 11:52:53 2009 From: ashex at chipnick.com (Ahmed Osman) Date: Wed Mar 25 11:55:10 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com><200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com><2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com><2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com><2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> You can install apt via yum and use it instead. Its a bit silly to use a debian package manager on a redhat system, but it works. Sent Via Blackberry -----Original Message----- From: Paul Bartell Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:49:42 To: Jeremiah Jester Cc: Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora To upgrade using apt, you would change your apt sources to the next distro version and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . In my limited experience with rpm based distros, shouldn't you be using yum? (or did they use apt that many releses ago?) On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Also, can i upgrade the distro via the cmd line? These are remote > machines and don't have an option of physical access to a cdrom drive. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeremiah Jester > wrote: >> Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my >> other cmds. >> >> I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time >> being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on >> these via other means? >> >> Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? >> >> JJ >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >>> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >>>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >>>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >>> >>> Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. >>> It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. >>> >>> -- >>> Jarod Wilson >>> jarod@wilsonet.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gslug-general mailing list >>> Gslug-general@gslug.org >>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Random quote of the week/month/whenever i get to updating it: "Opportunity knocked. My doorman threw him out." - Adrienne Gusoff "At school you don't get parole, good behavior only brings a longer sentence." - The History Boys _______________________________________________ Gslug-general mailing list Gslug-general@gslug.org http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From jeremiahjester at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 12:06:20 2009 From: jeremiahjester at gmail.com (Jeremiah Jester) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:02:06 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d4ba7ab0903251206r3ee6ce2sa8e6e0db7cbb254@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Jon. Anyway i can do this via the cmd line? If not, could i simply install these programs from source and would work as they should? JJ On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Jonathan Nicol wrote: > I think apt-rpm died in 2005, yum is now the package manager of choice. Core > 3 reached End-of-Life on 1/16/06. Fedora 10 is the current version, I really > wouldn't recommend trying to do an upgrade that far, you'll be much better > off with a clean install (and perhaps consider another distro with a longer > release cycle, such as CentOS) > > > Jonathan > > On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >> >> # apt-get install mysql-server >> Reading Package Lists... Done >> Building Dependency Tree... Done >> mysql-server is already the newest version. >> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. >> # mysql -V >> mysql ?Ver 11.18 Distrib 3.23.58, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) >> # cat /etc/*release >> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) >> LSB_VERSION="1.3" >> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) >> >> Appreciate your help. >> >> Thanks, >> JJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > > From jnicol at bluegecko.net Wed Mar 25 12:01:55 2009 From: jnicol at bluegecko.net (Jonathan Nicol) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:04:23 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think apt-rpm died in 2005, yum is now the package manager of choice. Core 3 reached End-of-Life on 1/16/06. Fedora 10 is the current version, I really wouldn't recommend trying to do an upgrade that far, you'll be much better off with a clean install (and perhaps consider another distro with a longer release cycle, such as CentOS) Jonathan On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the > most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an > install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent > versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora > Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? > > # apt-get install mysql-server > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > mysql-server is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. > # mysql -V > mysql Ver 11.18 Distrib 3.23.58, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) > # cat /etc/*release > Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) > LSB_VERSION="1.3" > Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) > > Appreciate your help. > > Thanks, > JJ > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From konrad at tylerc.org Wed Mar 25 12:12:14 2009 From: konrad at tylerc.org (Conrad Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:08:09 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200903251212.15920.konrad@tylerc.org> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 11:49:42 am Paul Bartell wrote: > To upgrade using apt, you would change your apt sources to the next > distro version and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . In my limited > experience with rpm based distros, shouldn't you be using yum? (or did > they use apt that many releses ago?) No, apt-rpm was an unsupported (but faster, for a while) additional tool to yum. It stopped compiling because of rpm changes in... F8? F9? Something like that. Regards, -- Conrad Meyer From daleville at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 12:19:12 2009 From: daleville at gmail.com (daleville@gmail.com) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:15:46 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com><200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com><2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com><2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com><2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49CA83B0.40300@gmail.com> The moral of this story is that this guy needs to upgrade php, mysql, and apache to the latest versions. Unless there is a repo (apt or yum) out there that contains these packages then this package manager discussion is pointless. Since I doubt there are prebuilt packages available for Fedora Core 3 I might try finding and using some rpms built for RHEL 4. For example quick search yielded: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.1.html#linux-rhel4-x86-32bit-rpms http://oss.oracle.com/projects/php/files/EL4/i386/ I couldn't quickly find any apache 2.2 packages but I'm sure they are out there. The most time consuming part would be finding any dependent packages. If I were you I'd convince them to upgrade to the most recent version of fedora (10). It would make your life much easier. Or better yet choose a distro that doesn't EOL so quickly. Ahmed Osman wrote, On 03/25/2009 11:52 AM: > You can install apt via yum and use it instead. Its a bit silly to use a debian package manager on a redhat system, but it works. > > > Sent Via Blackberry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Bartell > > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:49:42 > To: Jeremiah Jester > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora > > > To upgrade using apt, you would change your apt sources to the next > distro version and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . In my limited > experience with rpm based distros, shouldn't you be using yum? (or did > they use apt that many releses ago?) > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jeremiah Jester > wrote: >> Also, can i upgrade the distro via the cmd line? These are remote >> machines and don't have an option of physical access to a cdrom drive. >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jeremiah Jester >> wrote: >>> Thanks for both of your input. Btw, I ran 'apt-get update' prior to my >>> other cmds. >>> >>> I may be stuck with having to keep these machines alive for the time >>> being. Is it possible I can still install php5, mysql5, apache 2.2 on >>> these via other means? >>> >>> Is compiling source the only option? Would that work? >>> >>> JJ >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: >>>> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:21:13 Jeremiah Jester wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >>>>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>>>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >>>>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>>>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >>>> Yes, Fedora Core 3 is around 4 years old now, and 7 releases out of date. >>>> It went end-of-life close to 3 years ago. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jarod Wilson >>>> jarod@wilsonet.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gslug-general mailing list >>>> Gslug-general@gslug.org >>>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From btm at loftninjas.org Wed Mar 25 12:22:50 2009 From: btm at loftninjas.org (Bryan McLellan) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:18:36 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <49CA83B0.40300@gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49CA83B0.40300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <893823750903251222m5aa8d635q6a52513d9e17e7e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM, wrote: > The moral of this story is that this guy needs to upgrade php, mysql, > and apache to the latest versions. Unless there is a repo (apt or yum) > out there that contains these packages then this package manager > discussion is pointless. Since you're not going to fix the box by installing a newer distribution, compile from source, and be sure to remove the packages that you're replacing with source. From daleville at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 12:27:45 2009 From: daleville at gmail.com (daleville@gmail.com) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:24:14 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <893823750903251222m5aa8d635q6a52513d9e17e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49CA83B0.40300@gmail.com> <893823750903251222m5aa8d635q6a52513d9e17e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CA85B1.4090608@gmail.com> > Since you're not going to fix the box by installing a newer > distribution, compile from source, and be sure to remove the packages > that you're replacing with source. Considering how the original post was presented I wasn't exactly sure what this individual was comfortable with regarding manual compilation and installation. With rpms, if he screws up, at least he can rpm -e anything he installs. I guess he could always make install with a different configure --prefix, but again I'm not sure what his experience level is with this stuff. From rijilv at riji.lv Wed Mar 25 12:40:13 2009 From: rijilv at riji.lv (RijilV) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:36:00 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <893823750903251222m5aa8d635q6a52513d9e17e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <49CA83B0.40300@gmail.com> <893823750903251222m5aa8d635q6a52513d9e17e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5068c6420903251240u10fdbb45tbaf98b93f6c41337@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/25 Bryan McLellan : > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM, ? wrote: >> The moral of this story is that this guy needs to upgrade php, mysql, >> and apache to the latest versions. Unless there is a repo (apt or yum) >> out there that contains these packages then this package manager >> discussion is pointless. > > Since you're not going to fix the box by installing a newer > distribution, compile from source, and be sure to remove the packages > that you're replacing with source. He should be okay taking the src packages from RHEL4 (still supported for another year or two) and rebuilding them for FC3... might be a bit of a run around since that version of apache/php is only in the 'webdeveloper' or whatever 'channel', and there are likely going to be a non-trivial amount of dependencies...but all of those packages can easily be found in the redhat src repos. For MySQL use the RPMs from http://dev.mysql.com, you will be able to find versions there that work natively with FC3. Anyhow, fedora core doesn't make that great of a server platform because A) no upgrade path and B) short life cycle. Not sure what Redhat was doing there, but if you want a RH like distro without having to pay for it, look at CentOS. .r' From jnicol at bluegecko.net Wed Mar 25 13:01:17 2009 From: jnicol at bluegecko.net (Jonathan Nicol) Date: Wed Mar 25 12:57:06 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251206r3ee6ce2sa8e6e0db7cbb254@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251206r3ee6ce2sa8e6e0db7cbb254@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Usually doing fedora upgrades you jump one release at a time, i.e. 3- >4->5... but I suspect that there are no longer working mirrors out there for the EOL releases (up to FC8, I believe). You could try a large jump (3->8) but I wouldn't be surprised if it failed catastrophically. You could maybe compile everything from source, but be prepared to spend a long time chasing down dependencies (that may break other things on your system). Jonathan On Mar 25, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Thanks Jon. > > Anyway i can do this via the cmd line? If not, could i simply install > these programs from source and would work as they should? > > JJ > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Jonathan Nicol > wrote: >> I think apt-rpm died in 2005, yum is now the package manager of >> choice. Core >> 3 reached End-of-Life on 1/16/06. Fedora 10 is the current version, >> I really >> wouldn't recommend trying to do an upgrade that far, you'll be much >> better >> off with a clean install (and perhaps consider another distro with >> a longer >> release cycle, such as CentOS) >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jeremiah Jester wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to >>> the >>> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >>> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most >>> recent >>> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >>> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >>> >>> # apt-get install mysql-server >>> Reading Package Lists... Done >>> Building Dependency Tree... Done >>> mysql-server is already the newest version. >>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. >>> # mysql -V >>> mysql Ver 11.18 Distrib 3.23.58, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) >>> # cat /etc/*release >>> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) >>> LSB_VERSION="1.3" >>> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) >>> >>> Appreciate your help. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> JJ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gslug-general mailing list >>> Gslug-general@gslug.org >>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> >> From btm at loftninjas.org Wed Mar 25 13:09:01 2009 From: btm at loftninjas.org (Bryan McLellan) Date: Wed Mar 25 13:04:47 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251206r3ee6ce2sa8e6e0db7cbb254@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <893823750903251309m43d973e8o79c2ca5a24a46c95@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Jonathan Nicol wrote: > Usually doing fedora upgrades you jump one release at a time, i.e. > 3->4->5... but I suspect that there are no longer working mirrors out there > for the EOL releases (up to FC8, I believe). You could try a large jump http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/ From jamesthefishy at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 16:19:56 2009 From: jamesthefishy at gmail.com (james michael) Date: Wed Mar 25 16:15:51 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> I guess I'll pipe in my two cents because everyone else has and give an nice outline. --Apps-- * Compiling from source sucks and will break due to dependencies. * Using Pre-built packages for RHL4 apparently should work. It might not. --OS-- * Upgrading your current FC install will most likely break it. * Using a longer EOL distro like CentOS or maybe even FreeBSD will help you in the long run. So... One) I would try to install via RHL4 packages. Two) If above failed then compile Three) If above pisses you off, takes too long or some other excuse then attempt to upgrade to FC8-FC10 Four) The above will probably break your whole box but it was a good attempt so time to install CentOS/FreeBSD or something else. Have fun on your NIX adventure. Jeremiah Jester wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the > most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an > install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent > versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora > Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? > > # apt-get install mysql-server > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > mysql-server is already the newest version. > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. > # mysql -V > mysql Ver 11.18 Distrib 3.23.58, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) > # cat /etc/*release > Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) > LSB_VERSION="1.3" > Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) > > Appreciate your help. > > Thanks, > JJ > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jamesthefishy.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 127 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090325/226604df/jamesthefishy.vcf From jeremiahjester at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 16:21:45 2009 From: jeremiahjester at gmail.com (Jeremiah Jester) Date: Wed Mar 25 16:17:32 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to all. I've put in a request to get all these older boxes upgraded. Seems like the best solution. JJ On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM, james michael wrote: > I guess I'll pipe in my two cents because everyone else has and give an nice > outline. > > --Apps-- > * Compiling from source sucks and will break due to dependencies. > * Using Pre-built packages for RHL4 apparently should work. It might not. > --OS-- > * Upgrading your current FC install will most likely break it. > * Using a longer EOL distro like CentOS or maybe even FreeBSD will help you > in the long run. > > So... > > One) I would try to install via RHL4 packages. > Two) If above failed then compile > Three) If above pisses you off, takes too long or some other excuse then > attempt to upgrade to FC8-FC10 > Four) The above will probably break your whole box but it was a good attempt > so time to install CentOS/FreeBSD or something else. > > Have fun on your NIX adventure. > > > Jeremiah Jester wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm using the apt package on Fedora to upgrade my LAMP packages to the >> most current: PHP 5, MySQL 5 and APACHE 2.2. However, when i do an >> install of these packages it's telling me that I have the most recent >> versions - wich is not the case. Is this because I'm running Fedora >> Core release 3 (heidelberg), which I am assuming is a few years old? >> >> # apt-get install mysql-server >> Reading Package Lists... Done >> Building Dependency Tree... Done >> mysql-server is already the newest version. >> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded. >> # mysql -V >> mysql ?Ver 11.18 Distrib 3.23.58, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386) >> # cat /etc/*release >> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) >> LSB_VERSION="1.3" >> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) >> >> Appreciate your help. >> >> Thanks, >> JJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> >> > > From jamesthefishy at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 16:42:17 2009 From: jamesthefishy at gmail.com (james michael) Date: Wed Mar 25 16:38:06 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Online Events In-Reply-To: <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> I was thinking it would be nice to set times for people to get on a quick communication medium like Voice services such as Skype or even team speak or text based services like IRC or other chat room services. General meetings online like this could for one, encourage people to go to real life meetings. Two, it would allow for more follow-ups after real meetings as well create new topics for meetings. Three) People from out of town could attend, maybe even get caught up on the last meeting as well as draw more interest for the group from outside the tri-cities. So that we might eventually be able to setup and plan conventions. I might be a good idea or just a pipe dream. Either way I thought I would share it. It would be nice if Seattle could be known as the technology place that it once was in the 80's. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It might not. > --OS-- > * Upgrading your current FC install will most likely break it. > * Using a longer EOL distro like CentOS or maybe even FreeBSD will help > you in the long run. There's a big difference between RHL4 and RHEL4; RHL4 definitely will not have php5 etc packages. I'm glad his... coworkers? boss? whatever went with upgrading the machines, it seems like the best plan. Now keep them updated. -- Conrad Meyer From haircut at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 05:07:37 2009 From: haircut at gmail.com (Adam Monsen) Date: Thu Mar 26 05:03:44 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <9ebd65110903260507q3f72c275w829a3c20297f3e7b@mail.gmail.com> > You can install apt via yum and use it instead. Its a bit silly to > use a debian package manager on a redhat system, but it works. I used to use apt on Red Hat and Fedora... it was faster than yum and more reliable, in my experience. Sounds like this may no longer be the case. From frcaen at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 06:56:44 2009 From: frcaen at gmail.com (Francois Caen) Date: Thu Mar 26 06:52:35 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <9ebd65110903260507q3f72c275w829a3c20297f3e7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903251426.31817.jarod@wilsonet.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251134jeb1c9dy87c9610d437a9891@mail.gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251138j497b73bdybb26d06c1df7d327@mail.gmail.com> <2b5bab0f0903251149k1dfb8781r6a31fb7eb2721bfb@mail.gmail.com> <792776468-1238007163-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1174694524-@bxe1232.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <9ebd65110903260507q3f72c275w829a3c20297f3e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58cfe2840903260656r247f3738p4f5eaddf1d92bf8f@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Adam Monsen wrote: > I used to use apt on Red Hat and Fedora... it was faster than yum and > more reliable, in my experience. Sounds like this may no longer be the > case. It stopped being the case at least 5 yrs ago. -- Francois Caen From jarod at wilsonet.com Thu Mar 26 07:13:07 2009 From: jarod at wilsonet.com (Jarod Wilson) Date: Thu Mar 26 07:09:01 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <58cfe2840903260656r247f3738p4f5eaddf1d92bf8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <9ebd65110903260507q3f72c275w829a3c20297f3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <58cfe2840903260656r247f3738p4f5eaddf1d92bf8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200903261013.08070.jarod@wilsonet.com> On Thursday 26 March 2009 09:56:44 Francois Caen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Adam Monsen wrote: > > I used to use apt on Red Hat and Fedora... it was faster than yum and > > more reliable, in my experience. Sounds like this may no longer be the > > case. > > It stopped being the case at least 5 yrs ago. Eh. For some stuff, apt is still faster. But generally speaking, they're on a pretty level playing field these days. I haven't bothered with apt on Fedora in at least 3 years now. With PackageKit, we've now also got a graphical package install tool on par with synaptic, further obviating the need to install apt. But note that apt (as well as smart) are both available in the Fedora repos for those that want 'em. -- Jarod Wilson jarod@wilsonet.com From bri at gslug.org Thu Mar 26 10:39:04 2009 From: bri at gslug.org (Brian Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 26 10:39:18 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Free Seattle Qt Seminar 4/21 Message-ID: <20090326173903.GI20379@ifokr.org> ----- Forwarded message from Lynn Gray ----- From: Lynn Gray Subject: Free Seattle Qt Seminar 4/21 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:03:22 -0400 I would like to invite all members of the Greater Seattle Linux Users to the free Qt QuickStart at the Hilton Bellevue on April 21st. 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With PackageKit, we've now also got > a graphical package install tool on par with synaptic, further obviating > the need to install apt. But note that apt (as well as smart) are both > available in the Fedora repos for those that want 'em. Nah, apt-rpm has been broken for a while -- at least when we went to rpm 4.6.0, but I think it broke during F-9 for some reason. Regards, -- Conrad Meyer From haircut at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 12:45:05 2009 From: haircut at gmail.com (Adam Monsen) Date: Thu Mar 26 12:41:09 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Online Events In-Reply-To: <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ebd65110903261245x2a73419agd27535b239318b25@mail.gmail.com> > I was thinking it would be nice to set times for people to get on a quick > communication medium like Voice services such as Skype or even team speak or > text based services like IRC or other chat room services. Two other services I've found very useful to throw in that mix: * dimdim (a FLOSS alternative to gotomeeting) * tokbox (free non-FLOSS multi-way videoconferencing) From mark at foster.cc Thu Mar 26 13:53:40 2009 From: mark at foster.cc (Mark Foster) Date: Thu Mar 26 13:49:31 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Online Events In-Reply-To: <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CBEB54.5020809@foster.cc> james michael wrote: > I was thinking it would be nice to set times for people to get on a > quick communication medium like Voice services such as Skype or even > team speak or text based services like IRC or other chat room > services. General meetings online like this could for one, encourage > people to go to real life meetings. Two, it would allow for more > follow-ups after real meetings as well create new topics for meetings. > Three) People from out of town could attend, maybe even get caught up > on the last meeting as well as draw more interest for the group from > outside the tri-cities. So that we might eventually be able to setup > and plan conventions. > > I might be a good idea or just a pipe dream. Either way I thought I > would share it. It would be nice if Seattle could be known as the > technology place that it once was in the 80's. Cool ideas. One thing to point out is #gslug on freenode has been active for quite some time and there's nothing to prevent anyone from joining in on that, here and now[1]. It can be used (like the mailing list) to propose meeting topics or engage in arbitrary discussions. How is what you're proposing different / better than that? Are you suggesting an _regular_ online meeting? [1] http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/IRC -- Realization #2031: That the "meaning of life" is now just another Google search. Mark D. Foster http://mark.foster.cc/ | http://conshell.net/ From jamesthefishy at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 14:13:50 2009 From: jamesthefishy at gmail.com (james michael) Date: Thu Mar 26 14:09:44 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Online Events In-Reply-To: <49CBEB54.5020809@foster.cc> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> <49CBEB54.5020809@foster.cc> Message-ID: <49CBF00E.40507@gmail.com> Mark Foster wrote: > james michael wrote: >> I was thinking it would be nice to set times for people to get on a >> quick communication medium like Voice services such as Skype or even >> team speak or text based services like IRC or other chat room >> services. General meetings online like this could for one, encourage >> people to go to real life meetings. Two, it would allow for more >> follow-ups after real meetings as well create new topics for >> meetings. Three) People from out of town could attend, maybe even get >> caught up on the last meeting as well as draw more interest for the >> group from outside the tri-cities. So that we might eventually be >> able to setup and plan conventions. >> >> I might be a good idea or just a pipe dream. Either way I thought I >> would share it. It would be nice if Seattle could be known as the >> technology place that it once was in the 80's. > Cool ideas. One thing to point out is #gslug on freenode has been > active for quite some time and there's nothing to prevent anyone from > joining in on that, here and now[1]. It can be used (like the mailing > list) to propose meeting topics or engage in arbitrary discussions. > > How is what you're proposing different / better than that? Are you > suggesting an _regular_ online meeting? > > [1] http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/IRC > Well first off define active, people who idle there and have little or no input into the channel is not my idea of active. I have idled there for days with out one saying a word. I am suggesting something different as well. All the events could have different mediums for people wanting to try them, I for one have never tried Skype. It would be nice to have a nice chat about *Nix and issues like that over a voice service as well. It seems like it would move the conversation a long and less fighting might happen. Also these would be set times everyone would meet up online. This means it would be a good time to release news to the community thats not important enough to be at the meeting, too important to wait or just a good way to draw attention to some important idea or what not that you have. It just seems like a good idea, it would be good to start to coming together more as a community. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jamesthefishy.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 127 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090326/82de0296/jamesthefishy.vcf From jtg at intarcorp.com Thu Mar 26 14:20:52 2009 From: jtg at intarcorp.com (Jeremiah T. Gray) Date: Thu Mar 26 14:16:41 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Online Events In-Reply-To: <49CBF00E.40507@gmail.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CABC1C.4090501@gmail.com> <2d4ba7ab0903251621s18a5008et681e82e8c09833e8@mail.gmail.com> <49CAC159.4010700@gmail.com> <49CBEB54.5020809@foster.cc> <49CBF00E.40507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6214A086-13CF-4CCB-864D-C8BA11A03992@intarcorp.com> I rarely come to meetings or substantively contribute to the list, but I'm very interested in more group participation, so I'm chiming in. Personally, I have a hard time keeping up with all the new forums outside of my established communication channels. For me, the real-time aspect isn't that important; I'd be more interested in ongoing group projects and/or research and/or conversations on the wiki. If I found myself on the GSLUG site more anyway, I'd probably be more likely to want to attend meetings. On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:13 PM, james michael wrote: > Mark Foster wrote: >> james michael wrote: >>> I was thinking it would be nice to set times for people to get on >>> a quick communication medium like Voice services such as Skype or >>> even team speak or text based services like IRC or other chat >>> room services. General meetings online like this could for one, >>> encourage people to go to real life meetings. Two, it would allow >>> for more follow-ups after real meetings as well create new topics >>> for meetings. Three) People from out of town could attend, maybe >>> even get caught up on the last meeting as well as draw more >>> interest for the group from outside the tri-cities. So that we >>> might eventually be able to setup and plan conventions. >>> >>> I might be a good idea or just a pipe dream. Either way I thought >>> I would share it. It would be nice if Seattle could be known as >>> the technology place that it once was in the 80's. >> Cool ideas. One thing to point out is #gslug on freenode has been >> active for quite some time and there's nothing to prevent anyone >> from joining in on that, here and now[1]. It can be used (like the >> mailing list) to propose meeting topics or engage in arbitrary >> discussions. >> >> How is what you're proposing different / better than that? Are you >> suggesting an _regular_ online meeting? >> >> [1] http://wiki.gslug.org/index.php/IRC >> > Well first off define active, people who idle there and have little > or no input into the channel is not my idea of active. I have idled > there for days with out one saying a word. I am suggesting > something different as well. All the events could have different > mediums for people wanting to try them, I for one have never tried > Skype. It would be nice to have a nice chat about *Nix and issues > like that over a voice service as well. It seems like it would move > the conversation a long and less fighting might happen. Also these > would be set times everyone would meet up online. This means it > would be a good time to release news to the community thats not > important enough to be at the meeting, too important to wait or > just a good way to draw attention to some important idea or what > not that you have. It just seems like a good idea, it would be good > to start to coming together more as a > community._________________________________________ > ______ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From jarod at wilsonet.com Thu Mar 26 14:42:14 2009 From: jarod at wilsonet.com (Jarod Wilson) Date: Thu Mar 26 14:38:08 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] apt-get & fedora In-Reply-To: <200903261229.37230.konrad@tylerc.org> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <200903261013.08070.jarod@wilsonet.com> <200903261229.37230.konrad@tylerc.org> Message-ID: <200903261742.15197.jarod@wilsonet.com> On Thursday 26 March 2009 15:29:37 Conrad Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 26 March 2009 07:13:07 am Jarod Wilson wrote: > > Eh. For some stuff, apt is still faster. But generally speaking, they're > > on a pretty level playing field these days. I haven't bothered with apt > > on Fedora in at least 3 years now. With PackageKit, we've now also got > > a graphical package install tool on par with synaptic, further obviating > > the need to install apt. But note that apt (as well as smart) are both > > available in the Fedora repos for those that want 'em. > > Nah, apt-rpm has been broken for a while -- at least when we went to rpm > 4.6.0, but I think it broke during F-9 for some reason. Oh, crap, you're right. I forgot all about that... I have vague recollections of someone working on patches to remedy that, but no clue where they're at now... -- Jarod Wilson jarod@wilsonet.com From jakykong at theanythingbox.com Thu Mar 26 14:55:07 2009 From: jakykong at theanythingbox.com (Jack T Mudge III) Date: Fri Mar 27 01:57:48 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Online Events In-Reply-To: <6214A086-13CF-4CCB-864D-C8BA11A03992@intarcorp.com> References: <2d4ba7ab0903251121h2288abb1j14699382a2ddb137@mail.gmail.com> <49CBF00E.40507@gmail.com> <6214A086-13CF-4CCB-864D-C8BA11A03992@intarcorp.com> Message-ID: <200903261455.08011.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> On Thursday 26 March 2009 02:20:52 pm Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: > I rarely come to meetings or substantively contribute to the list, > but I'm very interested in more group participation, so I'm chiming > in. Personally, I have a hard time keeping up with all the new > forums outside of my established communication channels. For me, the > real-time aspect isn't that important; I'd be more interested in > ongoing group projects and/or research and/or conversations on the > wiki. If I found myself on the GSLUG site more anyway, I'd probably > be more likely to want to attend meetings. > Then there are folks like me who try to attend meetings, but, for reasons of school or work, often simply can't. Online events would be a lot easier to plan around, if only because it's something I could follow or contribute to without travel becoming a limiting factor. A blend of both would be even better, personally. A monthly-ish meeting, and perhaps pre- or post-meeting VOIP conferences. Just my $0.02 :) -- Sincerely, Jack Mudge jakykong@theanythingbox.com From jtg at intarcorp.com Fri Mar 27 17:12:40 2009 From: jtg at intarcorp.com (Jeremiah T. Gray) Date: Fri Mar 27 17:08:51 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Hacker Spaces Message-ID: Hey, is anyone on here involved with the Eastside Hackerspace? From fcp at wittykids.com Sat Mar 28 00:05:37 2009 From: fcp at wittykids.com (Frank Paterra) Date: Sat Mar 28 00:01:28 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39295f3a0903280005s62027e44ua51d44a92ca96ea0@mail.gmail.com> I'm not but it looks cool, I'll check it out! On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: > Hey, is anyone on here involved with the Eastside Hackerspace? > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Frank Paterra fcp@wittykids.com From dankney at snackfin.com Sat Mar 28 22:07:29 2009 From: dankney at snackfin.com (Don Ankney) Date: Sat Mar 28 22:43:10 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> References: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> Message-ID: Yes -- in fact I just got home from doing some work over there. What do you want to know? On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, gslug-general-request@gslug.org wrote: > > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:12:40 -0700 > From: "Jeremiah T. Gray" > Subject: [Gslug-general] Hacker Spaces > To: Seattle Linux Group > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Hey, is anyone on here involved with the Eastside Hackerspace? > > From fcp at wittykids.com Sun Mar 29 08:14:04 2009 From: fcp at wittykids.com (Frank Paterra) Date: Sun Mar 29 08:10:05 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: References: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> Message-ID: Where are they located. What do they have. What does it cost. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Don Ankney wrote: > > Yes -- in fact I just got home from doing some work over there. > > What do you want to know? > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, gslug-general-request@gslug.org wrote: > >> >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:12:40 -0700 >> From: "Jeremiah T. Gray" >> Subject: [Gslug-general] Hacker Spaces >> To: Seattle Linux Group >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Hey, is anyone on here involved with the Eastside Hackerspace? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From frcaen at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 14:47:00 2009 From: frcaen at gmail.com (Francois Caen) Date: Sun Mar 29 14:42:49 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: References: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> Message-ID: <58cfe2840903291447t30f2d017xcaf510c04ec29547@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Frank Paterra wrote: > Where are they located. > What do they have. > What does it cost. http://tinyurl.com/cm9sup -- Francois Caen From jtg at intarcorp.com Sun Mar 29 15:09:47 2009 From: jtg at intarcorp.com (Jeremiah T. Gray) Date: Sun Mar 29 15:05:36 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <58cfe2840903291447t30f2d017xcaf510c04ec29547@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> <58cfe2840903291447t30f2d017xcaf510c04ec29547@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <748BA25B-D89C-4CEF-A7F6-CF82D9090CFC@intarcorp.com> Yes, ha ha. But it was the Eastside Hackerspace listing on the Hackerspaces wiki leading to http://www.black-lodge.org/ with only a contact link that led me to post the inquiry to GSLUG in the first place. On Mar 29, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Francois Caen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Frank Paterra > wrote: >> Where are they located. >> What do they have. >> What does it cost. > > http://tinyurl.com/cm9sup > > -- > Francois Caen > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From paul at eucleides.com Sun Mar 29 16:16:35 2009 From: paul at eucleides.com (Paul Franz) Date: Sun Mar 29 16:12:27 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <748BA25B-D89C-4CEF-A7F6-CF82D9090CFC@intarcorp.com> References: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> <58cfe2840903291447t30f2d017xcaf510c04ec29547@mail.gmail.com> <748BA25B-D89C-4CEF-A7F6-CF82D9090CFC@intarcorp.com> Message-ID: <1349.192.168.0.66.1238368595.squirrel@eucleides.com> On Sun, March 29, 2009 2:09 pm, Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: > Yes, ha ha. But it was the Eastside Hackerspace listing on the > Hackerspaces wiki leading to http://www.black-lodge.org/ with only a > contact link that led me to post the inquiry to GSLUG in the first > place. Shows a google map with coords directly in the middle of an intersection, says that they were having a Halloween party, that they could use donations. That's it. What they don't say is: 1) How to get involved? 2) Who is welcome? 3) Why would you want to go there? 4) Some of them appear to have lodging space. Is this a modern geeky kind of YMCA/YWCA? 5) What is the center point of intended activity? 6) Is this a meeting place for a few people with an idea for commercial project until it gets off the ground? 7) Do they make beer there? They said they were brewing up some cider for that party. 8) How'd the party turn out? Any photos? > > > On Mar 29, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Francois Caen wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Frank Paterra >> wrote: >>> Where are they located. >>> What do they have. >>> What does it cost. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/cm9sup >> >> -- >> Francois Caen >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Paul Franz 425.440.9505 (O) 425.241.1618 (C) From fcp at wittykids.com Sun Mar 29 17:18:58 2009 From: fcp at wittykids.com (Frank Paterra) Date: Sun Mar 29 17:14:45 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <1349.192.168.0.66.1238368595.squirrel@eucleides.com> References: <20090328190010.91C5884C@drowsy.ifokr.org> <58cfe2840903291447t30f2d017xcaf510c04ec29547@mail.gmail.com> <748BA25B-D89C-4CEF-A7F6-CF82D9090CFC@intarcorp.com> <1349.192.168.0.66.1238368595.squirrel@eucleides.com> Message-ID: <39295f3a0903291718m371a848al75d6d0fcb1c42de4@mail.gmail.com> Further more, I think that the map is showing where Kirkland is since no address is given. Frank On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Paul Franz wrote: > > On Sun, March 29, 2009 2:09 pm, Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: >> Yes, ha ha. ?But it was the Eastside Hackerspace listing on the >> Hackerspaces wiki leading to http://www.black-lodge.org/ with only a >> contact link that led me to post the inquiry to GSLUG in the first >> place. > > Shows a google map with coords directly in the middle of an intersection, says that > they were having a Halloween party, that they could use donations. That's it. What > they don't say is: > > 1) How to get involved? > > 2) Who is welcome? > > 3) Why would you want to go there? > > 4) Some of them appear to have lodging space. Is this a modern geeky kind of YMCA/YWCA? > > 5) What is the center point of intended activity? > > 6) Is this a meeting place for a few people with an idea for commercial project until > it gets off the ground? > > 7) Do they make beer there? They said they were brewing up some cider for that party. > > 8) How'd the party turn out? Any photos? > >> >> >> On Mar 29, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Francois Caen wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Frank Paterra >>> wrote: >>>> Where are they located. >>>> What do they have. >>>> What does it cost. >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/cm9sup >>> >>> -- >>> Francois Caen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gslug-general mailing list >>> Gslug-general@gslug.org >>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gslug-general mailing list >> Gslug-general@gslug.org >> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general >> > > > -- > Paul Franz > 425.440.9505 (O) > 425.241.1618 (C) > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Frank Paterra fcp@wittykids.com From dankney at snackfin.com Mon Mar 30 13:32:29 2009 From: dankney at snackfin.com (Don Ankney) Date: Mon Mar 30 13:28:23 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] RE: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <20090330190007.088CF7BB@drowsy.ifokr.org> References: <20090330190007.088CF7BB@drowsy.ifokr.org> Message-ID: <000001c9b176$a78bbce0$f6a336a0$@com> There are eight of us who are basically renting a house in Kirkland for use as a dedicated hackerspace (none of us lives there). What we have right now is space, power, bandwidth, and community. At its core, the lodge is a space for working on individual and group projects. There are diverse interests and skillsets -- personally, I'm in software mode at the moment (working on static code analysis to detect XSS bugs in PHP), so I'm underutilizing the space, but others are interested in hardware hacking (etc). We're starting to look at group projects; I'm pitching ordering/building USRP gear so we can hack away at the GNU Radio Project, but I'm not the only voice and might not sell the idea. Whatever we end up working on, I'm sure it will be interesting. Community really is the whole point, in my mind. There is a lot I can learn from the other participants and hopefully have some skills that I can contribute with in return. It's the meeting spot for Defcon 206 (http://dc206.org), and that's the only regularly scheduled public event at the lodge for the moment. The best way to get involved would be to show up at the next meeting. The Halloween party was excellent, but I have no idea where the photos are posted. There is some brewing going on, and the cider is still aging. There is crash space in the lodge, but it is not a YMCA for geeks -- it's mostly there for working late nights or invited speakers/participants from out of town. This is my viewpoint -- I'm sure everyone who's involved would tell you something slightly different. If you're really interested and can't wait until the April DC206, feel free to ping me offlist and we can talk about it. -Don ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul Franz" Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces To: gslug-general@gslug.org Message-ID: <1349.192.168.0.66.1238368595.squirrel@eucleides.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 On Sun, March 29, 2009 2:09 pm, Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: > Yes, ha ha. But it was the Eastside Hackerspace listing on the > Hackerspaces wiki leading to http://www.black-lodge.org/ with only a > contact link that led me to post the inquiry to GSLUG in the first > place. Shows a google map with coords directly in the middle of an intersection, says that they were having a Halloween party, that they could use donations. That's it. What they don't say is: 1) How to get involved? 2) Who is welcome? 3) Why would you want to go there? 4) Some of them appear to have lodging space. Is this a modern geeky kind of YMCA/YWCA? 5) What is the center point of intended activity? 6) Is this a meeting place for a few people with an idea for commercial project until it gets off the ground? 7) Do they make beer there? They said they were brewing up some cider for that party. 8) How'd the party turn out? Any photos? *********************** From jtg at intarcorp.com Mon Mar 30 13:38:54 2009 From: jtg at intarcorp.com (Jeremiah T. Gray) Date: Mon Mar 30 13:34:44 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <000001c9b176$a78bbce0$f6a336a0$@com> References: <20090330190007.088CF7BB@drowsy.ifokr.org> <000001c9b176$a78bbce0$f6a336a0$@com> Message-ID: <9CAAD6BB-A80B-4231-AF8B-C93D52E8D316@intarcorp.com> Don, Thanks for the info. That sounds great. Have you hosted any noteworthy speakers? Jeremiah On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Don Ankney wrote: > There are eight of us who are basically renting a house in Kirkland > for use > as a dedicated hackerspace (none of us lives there). What we have > right now > is space, power, bandwidth, and community. > > At its core, the lodge is a space for working on individual and group > projects. There are diverse interests and skillsets -- personally, > I'm in > software mode at the moment (working on static code analysis to > detect XSS > bugs in PHP), so I'm underutilizing the space, but others are > interested in > hardware hacking (etc). > > We're starting to look at group projects; I'm pitching ordering/ > building > USRP gear so we can hack away at the GNU Radio Project, but I'm not > the only > voice and might not sell the idea. Whatever we end up working on, > I'm sure > it will be interesting. > > Community really is the whole point, in my mind. There is a lot I > can learn > from the other participants and hopefully have some skills that I can > contribute with in return. > > It's the meeting spot for Defcon 206 (http://dc206.org), and that's > the only > regularly scheduled public event at the lodge for the moment. The > best way > to get involved would be to show up at the next meeting. > > The Halloween party was excellent, but I have no idea where the > photos are > posted. There is some brewing going on, and the cider is still > aging. There > is crash space in the lodge, but it is not a YMCA for geeks -- it's > mostly > there for working late nights or invited speakers/participants from > out of > town. > > This is my viewpoint -- I'm sure everyone who's involved would tell > you > something slightly different. If you're really interested and can't > wait > until the April DC206, feel free to ping me offlist and we can talk > about > it. > > -Don > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:16:35 -0800 (PST) > From: "Paul Franz" > Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Re: Hacker Spaces > To: gslug-general@gslug.org > Message-ID: <1349.192.168.0.66.1238368595.squirrel@eucleides.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > > On Sun, March 29, 2009 2:09 pm, Jeremiah T. Gray wrote: >> Yes, ha ha. But it was the Eastside Hackerspace listing on the >> Hackerspaces wiki leading to http://www.black-lodge.org/ with only a >> contact link that led me to post the inquiry to GSLUG in the first >> place. > > Shows a google map with coords directly in the middle of an > intersection, > says that > they were having a Halloween party, that they could use donations. > That's > it. What > they don't say is: > > 1) How to get involved? > > 2) Who is welcome? > > 3) Why would you want to go there? > > 4) Some of them appear to have lodging space. Is this a modern > geeky kind of > YMCA/YWCA? > > 5) What is the center point of intended activity? > > 6) Is this a meeting place for a few people with an idea for > commercial > project until > it gets off the ground? > > 7) Do they make beer there? They said they were brewing up some > cider for > that party. > > 8) How'd the party turn out? Any photos? > > *********************** > From andrew at becherer.org Mon Mar 30 13:55:03 2009 From: andrew at becherer.org (Andrew Becherer) Date: Mon Mar 30 13:57:37 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] RE: Hacker Spaces In-Reply-To: <000001c9b176$a78bbce0$f6a336a0$@com> References: <20090330190007.088CF7BB@drowsy.ifokr.org> <000001c9b176$a78bbce0$f6a336a0$@com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Don Ankney wrote: > The Halloween party was excellent, but I have no idea where the photos are > posted. Some Photos: http://museum.threeville.com/gallery/Halloween%20at%20the%20Lodge%202008/ From jakykong at theanythingbox.com Tue Mar 31 02:19:15 2009 From: jakykong at theanythingbox.com (Jack T Mudge III) Date: Tue Mar 31 02:21:57 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Zaptel cards and PCI IRQ's Message-ID: <200903310219.15886.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> Just when I thought the IRQ nightmares of the ISA days were gone, it comes back to haunt me yet again. This is a problem that I haven't been able to solve yet. Here's the objective: run asterisk as a voicemail server. (Ok, it's a project of mine to pass some time and learn something.) Here's the setup. ASRock 939Dual motherboard X100P telephony card (zaptel compatible) from http://www.x100p.com Debian lenny, asterisk installed, zaptel module compiled. Zaptel recognizes the card. Wcfxo, however, gives me this error (dmesg |tail): [ 274.504012] NOTICE-wcfxo: WCFXO/0: Unknown DAA chip revision: REVB=0 [ 274.504017] Failed to initailize DAA, giving up... [ 274.504069] wcfxo: probe of 0000:04:06.0 failed with error -5 With a bit of googling, it appears that this error is because of an IRQ conflict. The x100p does not like to share IRQs, unlike most PCI cards. I have 2 available PCI slots, and they both conflict with a USB controller on the motherboard. I tried disabling the USB controller in the BIOS, and it no longer shows a conflict in lspci -v, but I still get this error. All google could offer was to switch PCI slots. That won't work in this case, as described above, so I'm hoping there is some other solution. Does anyone have any ideas? I attached a few relevant text files: lspci - output of lspci -v command interrupts - copy of /proc/interrupts file as of the lspci command's running dmesg - take a guess. -- Sincerely, Jack Mudge jakykong@theanythingbox.com -------------- next part -------------- [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.26-1-amd64 (Debian 2.6.26-13lenny2) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 17:46:45 UTC 2009 [ 0.000000] Command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet [ 0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 00000000000e8000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000003ffb0000 (usable) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000003ffb0000 - 000000003ffc0000 (ACPI data) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000003ffc0000 - 000000003fff0000 (ACPI NVS) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 000000003fff0000 - 0000000040000000 (reserved) [ 0.000000] BIOS-e820: 00000000ff7c0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) [ 0.000000] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 159) 0 entries of 3200 used [ 0.000000] Entering add_active_range(0, 256, 262064) 1 entries of 3200 used [ 0.000000] max_pfn_mapped = 1048576 [ 0.000000] init_memory_mapping [ 0.000000] DMI 2.3 present. [ 0.000000] ACPI: RSDP 000F9AA0, 0014 (r0 ACPIAM) [ 0.000000] ACPI: RSDT 3FFB0000, 0030 (r1 A M I OEMRSDT 7000513 MSFT 97) [ 0.000000] ACPI: FACP 3FFB0200, 0084 (r2 A M I OEMFACP 7000513 MSFT 97) [ 0.000000] ACPI: DSDT 3FFB0400, 45A7 (r1 939M2 939M2110 110 INTL 2002026) [ 0.000000] ACPI: FACS 3FFC0000, 0040 [ 0.000000] ACPI: APIC 3FFB0390, 0068 (r1 A M I OEMAPIC 7000513 MSFT 97) [ 0.000000] ACPI: OEMB 3FFC0040, 0056 (r1 A M I AMI_OEM 7000513 MSFT 97) [ 0.000000] Scanning NUMA topology in Northbridge 24 [ 0.000000] No NUMA configuration found [ 0.000000] Faking a node at 0000000000000000-000000003ffb0000 [ 0.000000] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 159) 0 entries of 3200 used [ 0.000000] Entering add_active_range(0, 256, 262064) 1 entries of 3200 used [ 0.000000] Bootmem setup node 0 0000000000000000-000000003ffb0000 [ 0.000000] NODE_DATA [000000000000b000 - 000000000000ffff] [ 0.000000] bootmap [0000000000010000 - 0000000000017ff7] pages 8 [ 0.000000] early res: 0 [0-fff] BIOS data page [ 0.000000] early res: 1 [6000-7fff] TRAMPOLINE [ 0.000000] early res: 2 [200000-675397] TEXT DATA BSS [ 0.000000] early res: 3 [3798f000-37fefefe] RAMDISK [ 0.000000] early res: 4 [9fc00-fffff] BIOS reserved [ 0.000000] early res: 5 [8000-afff] PGTABLE [ 0.000000] [ffffe20000000000-ffffe20000dfffff] PMD -> [ffff810001200000-ffff810001ffffff] on node 0 [ 0.000000] Zone PFN ranges: [ 0.000000] DMA 0 -> 4096 [ 0.000000] DMA32 4096 -> 1048576 [ 0.000000] Normal 1048576 -> 1048576 [ 0.000000] Movable zone start PFN for each node [ 0.000000] early_node_map[2] active PFN ranges [ 0.000000] 0: 0 -> 159 [ 0.000000] 0: 256 -> 262064 [ 0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 261967 [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 56 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 1245 pages reserved [ 0.000000] DMA zone: 2698 pages, LIFO batch:0 [ 0.000000] DMA32 zone: 3527 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] DMA32 zone: 254441 pages, LIFO batch:31 [ 0.000000] Normal zone: 0 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] Movable zone: 0 pages used for memmap [ 0.000000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808 [ 0.000000] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000 [ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) [ 0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x81] disabled) [ 0.000000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x01] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0]) [ 0.000000] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 1, version 0, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23 [ 0.000000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec10000] gsi_base[24]) [ 0.000000] IOAPIC[1]: apic_id 2, version 0, address 0xfec10000, GSI 24-39 [ 0.000000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl) [ 0.000000] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level) [ 0.000000] ACPI: IRQ0 used by override. [ 0.000000] ACPI: IRQ2 used by override. [ 0.000000] ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. [ 0.000000] Setting APIC routing to flat [ 0.000000] Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information [ 0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: 000000000009f000 - 00000000000a0000 [ 0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000a0000 - 00000000000e8000 [ 0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000e8000 - 0000000000100000 [ 0.000000] Allocating PCI resources starting at 50000000 (gap: 40000000:bf7c0000) [ 0.000000] SMP: Allowing 2 CPUs, 1 hotplug CPUs [ 0.000000] PERCPU: Allocating 37168 bytes of per cpu data [ 0.000000] NR_CPUS: 32, nr_cpu_ids: 2 [ 0.000000] Built 1 zonelists in Node order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 257139 [ 0.000000] Policy zone: DMA32 [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet [ 0.000000] Initializing CPU#0 [ 0.000000] PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 32768 bytes) [ 0.000000] TSC calibrated against PM_TIMER [ 0.000000] time.c: Detected 2000.060 MHz processor. [ 0.004000] Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 [ 0.004000] console [tty0] enabled [ 0.004000] Checking aperture... [ 0.004000] Node 0: aperture @ dc000000 size 64 MB [ 0.004000] Memory: 1022180k/1048256k available (2226k kernel code, 25688k reserved, 1082k data, 392k init) [ 0.004000] CPA: page pool initialized 1 of 1 pages preallocated [ 0.084030] Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 4003.23 BogoMIPS (lpj=8006462) [ 0.084087] Security Framework initialized [ 0.084094] SELinux: Disabled at boot. [ 0.084098] Capability LSM initialized [ 0.084227] Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) [ 0.085049] Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) [ 0.085424] Mount-cache hash table entries: 256 [ 0.085609] Initializing cgroup subsys ns [ 0.085613] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct [ 0.085616] Initializing cgroup subsys devices [ 0.085641] CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) [ 0.085644] CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line) [ 0.085647] CPU 0/0 -> Node 0 [ 0.085679] SMP alternatives: switching to UP code [ 0.090617] ACPI: Core revision 20080321 [ 0.137296] CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ stepping 02 [ 0.137300] Using local APIC timer interrupts. [ 0.144009] APIC timer calibration result 12500372 [ 0.144009] Detected 12.500 MHz APIC timer. [ 0.144009] Brought up 1 CPUs [ 0.144009] Total of 1 processors activated (4003.23 BogoMIPS). [ 0.144009] CPU0 attaching sched-domain: [ 0.144009] domain 0: span 0 [ 0.144009] groups: 0 [ 0.144009] net_namespace: 1224 bytes [ 0.144009] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware [ 0.144009] NET: Registered protocol family 16 [ 0.144009] node 0 link 0: io port [1000, ffffff] [ 0.144009] TOM: 0000000040000000 aka 1024M [ 0.144009] node 0 link 0: mmio [e0000000, efffffff] [ 0.144009] node 0 link 0: mmio [a0000, bffff] [ 0.144009] node 0 link 0: mmio [40000000, ffffffff] [ 0.144009] bus: [00,ff] on node 0 link 0 [ 0.144009] bus: 00 index 0 io port: [0, ffff] [ 0.144009] bus: 00 index 1 mmio: [40000000, fcffffffff] [ 0.144009] bus: 00 index 2 mmio: [a0000, bffff] [ 0.144009] ACPI: bus type pci registered [ 0.144009] PCI: Using configuration type 1 for base access [ 0.144009] ACPI: EC: Look up EC in DSDT [ 0.149980] ACPI: Interpreter enabled [ 0.149983] ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5) [ 0.150000] ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing [ 0.155660] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) [ 0.155984] pci 0000:00:07.1: quirk: region 0800-083f claimed by ali7101 ACPI [ 0.156009] PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:06.0 [ 0.156009] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] [ 0.156009] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P0P4._PRT] [ 0.156009] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HTT_._PRT] [ 0.156009] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PEB1._PRT] [ 0.156009] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PEB2._PRT] [ 0.164691] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) [ 0.164866] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *10 11 12 14 15) [ 0.165038] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs *3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) [ 0.165204] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs *3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15), disabled. [ 0.165376] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15) [ 0.165547] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 *7 10 11 12 14 15) [ 0.165719] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15) [ 0.165891] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *9 [ 0.166061] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKP] (IRQs 3 *4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) [ 0.166204] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay [ 0.166237] pnp: PnP ACPI init [ 0.166246] ACPI: bus type pnp registered [ 0.166265] pnp 00:00: parse allocated resources [ 0.166381] pnp 00:00: add io 0xcf8-0xcff flags 0x1 [ 0.166429] pnp 00:00: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0a03 (active) [ 0.166452] pnp 00:01: parse allocated resources [ 0.166459] pnp 00:01: add dma 4 flags 0x4 [ 0.166461] pnp 00:01: add io 0x0-0xf flags 0x1 [ 0.166463] pnp 00:01: add io 0x81-0x83 flags 0x1 [ 0.166465] pnp 00:01: add io 0x87-0x87 flags 0x1 [ 0.166467] pnp 00:01: add io 0x89-0x8b flags 0x1 [ 0.166470] pnp 00:01: add io 0x8f-0x8f flags 0x1 [ 0.166472] pnp 00:01: add io 0xc0-0xdf flags 0x1 [ 0.166511] pnp 00:01: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0200 (active) [ 0.166528] pnp 00:02: parse allocated resources [ 0.166533] pnp 00:02: add io 0x70-0x71 flags 0x1 [ 0.166542] pnp 00:02: add irq 8 flags 0x1 [ 0.166581] pnp 00:02: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0b00 (active) [ 0.166597] pnp 00:03: parse allocated resources [ 0.166602] pnp 00:03: add io 0x61-0x61 flags 0x1 [ 0.166640] pnp 00:03: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0800 (active) [ 0.166654] pnp 00:04: parse allocated resources [ 0.166660] pnp 00:04: add io 0xf0-0xff flags 0x1 [ 0.166664] pnp 00:04: add irq 13 flags 0x1 [ 0.166704] pnp 00:04: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0c04 (active) [ 0.167809] pnp 00:05: parse allocated resources [ 0.167949] pnp 00:05: add io 0x10-0x1f flags 0x1 [ 0.167951] pnp 00:05: add io 0x22-0x3f flags 0x1 [ 0.167954] pnp 00:05: add io 0x44-0x5f flags 0x1 [ 0.167956] pnp 00:05: add io 0x62-0x63 flags 0x1 [ 0.167958] pnp 00:05: add io 0x65-0x6f flags 0x1 [ 0.167960] pnp 00:05: add io 0x72-0x7f flags 0x1 [ 0.167962] pnp 00:05: add io 0x80-0x80 flags 0x1 [ 0.167964] pnp 00:05: add io 0x84-0x86 flags 0x1 [ 0.167966] pnp 00:05: add io 0x88-0x88 flags 0x1 [ 0.167968] pnp 00:05: add io 0x8c-0x8e flags 0x1 [ 0.167970] pnp 00:05: add io 0x90-0x9f flags 0x1 [ 0.167972] pnp 00:05: add io 0xa2-0xbf flags 0x1 [ 0.167974] pnp 00:05: add io 0xe0-0xef flags 0x1 [ 0.167977] pnp 00:05: add io 0x480-0x48f flags 0x1 [ 0.167979] pnp 00:05: add io 0x4d0-0x4d1 flags 0x1 [ 0.167981] pnp 00:05: add io 0x800-0x87f flags 0x1 [ 0.167983] pnp 00:05: add io 0x400-0x40f flags 0x1 [ 0.167986] pnp 00:05: PNP0c02: calling quirk_system_pci_resources+0x0/0x15c [ 0.168010] pnp 00:05: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0c02 (active) [ 0.168010] pnp 00:06: parse allocated resources [ 0.168116] pnp 00:06: add mem 0xfec00000-0xfec00fff flags 0x0 [ 0.168118] pnp 00:06: add mem 0xfee00000-0xfee00fff flags 0x0 [ 0.168121] pnp 00:06: add mem 0xe0000000-0xefffffff flags 0x0 [ 0.168123] pnp 00:06: add mem 0xfec10000-0xfec10fff flags 0x0 [ 0.168125] pnp 00:06: add mem 0xffb80000-0xffffffff flags 0x0 [ 0.168129] pnp 00:06: PNP0c02: calling quirk_system_pci_resources+0x0/0x15c [ 0.168189] pnp 00:06: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0c02 (active) [ 0.168504] pnp 00:07: parse allocated resources [ 0.168609] pnp 00:07: add io 0x0-0xffffffffffffffff flags 0x10000001 [ 0.168612] pnp 00:07: add io 0x290-0x29f flags 0x1 [ 0.168615] pnp 00:07: PNP0c02: calling quirk_system_pci_resources+0x0/0x15c [ 0.168674] pnp 00:07: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0c02 (active) [ 0.168742] pnp 00:08: parse allocated resources [ 0.168952] pnp 00:08: add mem 0x0-0x9ffff flags 0x1 [ 0.168954] pnp 00:08: add mem 0xc0000-0xcffff flags 0x0 [ 0.168956] pnp 00:08: add mem 0xe0000-0xfffff flags 0x0 [ 0.168959] pnp 00:08: add mem 0x100000-0x3fffffff flags 0x1 [ 0.168961] pnp 00:08: add mem 0x0-0xffffffffffffffff flags 0x10000000 [ 0.168964] pnp 00:08: PNP0c01: calling quirk_system_pci_resources+0x0/0x15c [ 0.169031] pnp 00:08: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs PNP0c01 (active) [ 0.169364] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 9 devices [ 0.169366] ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered [ 0.169557] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs [ 0.169614] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub [ 0.169654] usbcore: registered new device driver usb [ 0.169811] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing [ 0.169826] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:04.0 [ 0.176135] agpgart: Detected AGP bridge 20 [ 0.176140] Setting up ULi AGP. [ 0.178268] agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xdc000000 [ 0.178366] ACPI: RTC can wake from S4 [ 0.188020] pnp: the driver 'system' has been registered [ 0.188034] system 00:05: ioport range 0x480-0x48f has been reserved [ 0.188037] system 00:05: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved [ 0.188040] system 00:05: ioport range 0x800-0x87f could not be reserved [ 0.188043] system 00:05: ioport range 0x400-0x40f has been reserved [ 0.188046] system 00:05: driver attached [ 0.188054] system 00:06: iomem range 0xfec00000-0xfec00fff has been reserved [ 0.188057] system 00:06: iomem range 0xfee00000-0xfee00fff has been reserved [ 0.188059] system 00:06: iomem range 0xe0000000-0xefffffff has been reserved [ 0.188064] system 00:06: iomem range 0xfec10000-0xfec10fff has been reserved [ 0.188067] system 00:06: iomem range 0xffb80000-0xffffffff could not be reserved [ 0.188070] system 00:06: driver attached [ 0.188076] system 00:07: ioport range 0x290-0x29f has been reserved [ 0.188079] system 00:07: driver attached [ 0.188086] system 00:08: iomem range 0x0-0x9ffff could not be reserved [ 0.188089] system 00:08: iomem range 0xc0000-0xcffff has been reserved [ 0.188091] system 00:08: iomem range 0xe0000-0xfffff could not be reserved [ 0.188094] system 00:08: iomem range 0x100000-0x3fffffff could not be reserved [ 0.188097] system 00:08: driver attached [ 0.188488] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0 [ 0.188490] IO window: disabled. [ 0.188493] MEM window: 0xff200000-0xff2fffff [ 0.188495] PREFETCH window: disabled. [ 0.188499] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:02.0 [ 0.188500] IO window: disabled. [ 0.188503] MEM window: 0xff300000-0xff3fffff [ 0.188505] PREFETCH window: disabled. [ 0.188509] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:05.0 [ 0.188512] IO window: a000-cfff [ 0.188516] MEM window: 0xff400000-0xff4fffff [ 0.188520] PREFETCH window: 0x00000000b7f00000-0x00000000d7efffff [ 0.188525] PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:06.0 [ 0.188528] IO window: d000-dfff [ 0.188532] MEM window: 0xff500000-0xff5fffff [ 0.188536] PREFETCH window: disabled. [ 0.188555] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:01.0[A] -> GSI 29 (level, low) -> IRQ 29 [ 0.188560] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64 [ 0.188568] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> GSI 34 (level, low) -> IRQ 34 [ 0.188571] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64 [ 0.188578] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:05.0 to 64 [ 0.188585] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:06.0 to 64 [ 0.188609] NET: Registered protocol family 2 [ 0.224085] IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) [ 0.224624] TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes) [ 0.226210] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) [ 0.226944] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) [ 0.226948] TCP reno registered [ 0.236117] NET: Registered protocol family 1 [ 0.236227] checking if image is initramfs... it is [ 0.692013] Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 0 [ 0.721156] Freeing initrd memory: 6531k freed [ 0.726430] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [ 0.726446] type=2000 audit(1238490198.724:1): initialized [ 0.726593] Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 [ 0.726681] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 [ 0.726710] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0, 4096 bytes) [ 0.726749] msgmni has been set to 2009 [ 0.726845] Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 253) [ 0.726849] io scheduler noop registered [ 0.726850] io scheduler anticipatory registered [ 0.726852] io scheduler deadline registered [ 0.726863] io scheduler cfq registered (default) [ 0.726877] pci 0000:00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping [ 0.726893] pci 0000:00:01.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping [ 0.726905] pci 0000:00:02.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping [ 0.726961] pci 0000:03:00.0: Boot video device [ 0.727055] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64 [ 0.727076] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability [ 0.727099] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:01.0:pcie00] [ 0.727167] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64 [ 0.727188] assign_interrupt_mode Found MSI capability [ 0.727205] Allocate Port Service[0000:00:02.0:pcie00] [ 0.729951] Linux agpgart interface v0.103 [ 0.729954] Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled [ 0.730244] pnp: the driver 'serial' has been registered [ 0.731686] brd: module loaded [ 0.731763] input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /class/input/input0 [ 0.731856] pnp: the driver 'i8042 kbd' has been registered [ 0.731893] pnp: the driver 'i8042 aux' has been registered [ 0.731955] pnp: the driver 'i8042 kbd' has been unregistered [ 0.731984] pnp: the driver 'i8042 aux' has been unregistered [ 0.731986] PNP: No PS/2 controller found. Probing ports directly. [ 0.734713] serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 [ 0.734718] serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 [ 0.740450] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice [ 0.740489] pnp: the driver 'rtc_cmos' has been registered [ 0.740561] rtc_cmos 00:02: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0 [ 0.740580] rtc0: alarms up to one month [ 0.740582] rtc_cmos 00:02: driver attached [ 0.740612] cpuidle: using governor ladder [ 0.740614] cpuidle: using governor menu [ 0.740620] No iBFT detected. [ 0.741036] TCP cubic registered [ 0.741039] NET: Registered protocol family 17 [ 0.741157] registered taskstats version 1 [ 0.741286] rtc_cmos 00:02: setting system clock to 2009-03-31 09:03:19 UTC (1238490199) [ 0.741293] Freeing unused kernel memory: 392k freed [ 0.833695] ACPI: ACPI0007:00 is registered as cooling_device0 [ 1.384131] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver [ 1.384137] ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx [ 1.387158] ALI15X3: IDE controller (0x10b9:0x5229 rev 0xc7) at PCI slot 0000:00:12.0 [ 1.387170] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 1.387179] ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later [ 1.387196] ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07 [ 1.387205] ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f [ 1.387211] Probing IDE interface ide0... [ 1.676203] hda: WDC WD400BB-22FJA0, ATA DISK drive [ 2.012047] hda: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4 [ 2.012122] hda: UDMA/100 mode selected [ 2.012213] Probing IDE interface ide1... [ 2.748204] hdc: FX320S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [ 3.420028] hdc: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4 [ 3.420117] hdc: MWDMA2 mode selected [ 3.420259] ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 [ 3.420287] isa bounce pool size: 16 pages [ 3.422589] ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 [ 3.429319] No dock devices found. [ 3.435604] SCSI subsystem initialized [ 3.442460] libata version 3.00 loaded. [ 3.464138] hda: max request size: 128KiB [ 3.468865] hda: 78165360 sectors (40020 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63 [ 3.469421] hda: cache flushes supported [ 3.469462] hda: hda1 hda2 [ 3.505221] hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache [ 3.505227] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 [ 3.854962] PM: Starting manual resume from disk [ 3.885810] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [ 3.885823] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. [ 5.694767] udevd version 125 started [ 6.627227] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 [ 6.666244] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4 [ 6.682435] input: Power Button (FF) as /class/input/input1 [ 6.708057] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] [ 6.708151] input: Power Button (CM) as /class/input/input2 [ 6.736074] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB] [ 7.380219] ali1563_smbus 0000:00:07.0: Found ALi1563 SMBus at 0x0400 [ 7.386978] ali15x3_smbus 0000:00:07.1: ALI15X3_smb region uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr [ 7.387036] ali15x3_smbus 0000:00:07.1: ALI15X3 not detected, module not inserted. [ 7.420834] ali1535_smbus 0000:00:07.1: ALI1535_smb region uninitialized - upgrade BIOS? [ 7.420839] ali1535_smbus 0000:00:07.1: ALI1535 not detected, module not inserted. [ 7.475984] uli526x: ULi M5261/M5263 net driver, version 0.9.3 (2005-7-29) [ 7.476040] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [ 7.498106] eth0: ULi M5263 at pci0000:00:11.0, 00:13:8f:37:51:78, irq 17. [ 7.677610] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:08.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 [ 7.725671] Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 [ 7.725674] Zaptel Version: 1.4.11 [ 7.725676] Zaptel Echo Canceller: MG2 [ 7.794572] input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input3 [ 8.696005] AC'97 1 does not respond - RESET [ 8.696576] AC'97 1 access is not valid [0xffffffff], removing mixer. [ 8.696644] Unable to initialize codec #1 [ 8.752016] intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54757 usecs [ 8.752019] intel8x0: clocking to 48000 [ 8.754199] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:06.0[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21 [ 8.792008] NOTICE-wcfxo: WCFXO/0: Unknown DAA chip revision: REVB=0 [ 8.792012] Failed to initailize DAA, giving up... [ 8.792085] wcfxo: probe of 0000:04:06.0 failed with error -5 [ 10.364676] Adding 1646652k swap on /dev/hda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1646652k [ 10.751088] EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal [ 11.428903] loop: module loaded [ 13.788581] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ processors (1 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00) [ 13.788616] powernow-k8: 0 : fid 0xc (2000 MHz), vid 0x6 [ 13.788618] powernow-k8: 1 : fid 0xa (1800 MHz), vid 0x8 [ 13.788621] powernow-k8: 2 : fid 0x2 (1000 MHz), vid 0xa [ 15.000365] NET: Registered protocol family 10 [ 15.000841] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions [ 15.001339] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 15.104381] ztdummy: Trying to load High Resolution Timer [ 15.104381] ztdummy: Initialized High Resolution Timer [ 15.104381] ztdummy: Starting High Resolution Timer [ 15.104381] ztdummy: High Resolution Timer started, good to go [ 15.199587] Registered tone zone 0 (United States / North America) [ 16.636322] uli526x: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full duplex [ 16.636519] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready [ 16.930745] pnp: the driver 'parport_pc' has been registered [ 16.931301] lp: driver loaded but no devices found [ 16.974847] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [ 17.016119] Marking TSC unstable due to cpufreq changes [ 17.188012] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -87984842 ns) [ 27.052012] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [ 32.720437] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 [ 32.740189] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 32.740340] [drm] Initialized radeon 1.29.0 20080528 on minor 0 [ 34.413647] agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:04.0. [ 34.413678] agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:04.0 into 8x mode [ 34.413699] agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:03:00.0 into 8x mode [ 34.804532] [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map [ 34.804542] [drm] Loading R200 Microcode [ 34.804607] [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs [ 48.708012] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [ 234.884126] Zapata Telephony Interface Unloaded [ 267.172301] Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 [ 267.172306] Zaptel Version: 1.4.11 [ 267.172307] Zaptel Echo Canceller: MG2 [ 274.504012] NOTICE-wcfxo: WCFXO/0: Unknown DAA chip revision: REVB=0 [ 274.504017] Failed to initailize DAA, giving up... [ 274.504069] wcfxo: probe of 0000:04:06.0 failed with error -5 -------------- next part -------------- CPU0 0: 37 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042 8: 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc0 9: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi 12: 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042 14: 8896 IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 12231 IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi radeon@pci:0000:03:00.0 17: 5627 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0 18: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi ALi M5455 NMI: 0 Non-maskable interrupts LOC: 332586 Local timer interrupts RES: 0 Rescheduling interrupts CAL: 0 function call interrupts TLB: 0 TLB shootdowns TRM: 0 Thermal event interrupts THR: 0 Threshold APIC interrupts SPU: 0 Spurious interrupts ERR: 0 -------------- next part -------------- 00:00.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1695 K8 Northbridge [PCI Express and HyperTransport] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff200000-ff2fffff Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver Kernel modules: shpchp 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: ff300000-ff3fffff Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver Kernel modules: shpchp 00:04.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1689 K8 Northbridge [Super K8 Single Chip] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at (32-bit, prefetchable) Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: agpgart-amd64 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation AGP8X Controller (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=64 I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000cfff Memory behind bridge: ff400000-ff4fffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: b7f00000-d7efffff Kernel modules: shpchp 00:06.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation M5249 HTT to PCI Bridge (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff Memory behind bridge: ff500000-ff5fffff 00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1563 HyperTransport South Bridge (rev 70) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 Kernel driver in use: ali1563_smbus Kernel modules: i2c-ali1563 00:07.1 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU] Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard Flags: medium devsel Kernel modules: i2c-ali1535, i2c-ali15x3, alim7101_wdt 00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 20) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18 I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Memory at ff6ff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: ALi Corporation ULi 1689,1573 integrated ethernet. (rev 40) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 5263 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 17 I/O ports at e400 [size=256] Memory at ff6fec00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: uli526x Kernel modules: uli526x 00:12.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c7) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard IDE (PATA) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] I/O ports at ff00 [size=16] Kernel driver in use: ALI15x3_IDE Kernel modules: alim15x3, ide-pci-generic, ata_generic 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration Flags: fast devsel Capabilities: 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map Flags: fast devsel 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller Flags: fast devsel 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control Flags: fast devsel Kernel driver in use: k8temp Kernel modules: k8temp 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: PC Partner Limited Device 0130 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 Memory at c8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at c000 [size=256] Memory at ff4f0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Expansion ROM at ff4c0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: Kernel modules: radeonfb 03:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 01) Subsystem: PC Partner Limited Device 0131 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32 Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at ff4e0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: 04:06.0 Communication controller: Motorola Wildcard X100P Subsystem: Efar Microsystems Device 0001 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 21 I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Memory at ff5ff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: Kernel modules: wcfxo From linux1 at anonymousmail.net Tue Mar 31 05:37:41 2009 From: linux1 at anonymousmail.net (debianuser) Date: Tue Mar 31 05:40:09 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] VPS servers / cheap rackspace in Seattle? Message-ID: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I am interested in a VPS server located someplace in Seattle. I'm looking for a VPS server where I can go wild with my projects just like I can do on my own machine. I'm mainly looking for something where I can max out memory, CPU or bandwidth without effecting other users. I would just rent some rack space and get my own server, but that costs more money and uses more electricity, especially since I won't be using the VPS server 24/7. Here are two cool places that I found, I just wish they were in Seattle! A friend of mine told me about this place called VPSland... I was wondering if anyone has any info about how they treat their customers, etc. Are they any good? Are their servers accessible most of the time? http://vpsland.com/ They have linux VPS's starting at $14 a month, but they aren't located in Seattle. I also found this place called ImHosted... http://imhosted.com/ This is where I currently have my hosting. They are pretty awesome. I love these guys!! They have unlimited bandwidth and diskspace on a fat network! ImHosted has deal that ends today for 3 months of FREE service! I would sign up for that, but I already have an account there. They are pretty cool, but they don't offer VPS. They do offer shell accounts, but frown upon doing any memory, CPU or bandwidth intensive tasks for any length of time. They are mainly a webhosting company and offer some awesome services for the price they are asking! I just wish they had VPS or rack space in Seattle! The main reason that I want a VPS is so that I can bypass my slow and retarded consumer grade Qwest router. It is always crashing on me. With a VPS account, then I won't have to deal with that issue as much. The main reason that I want to be located in Seattle is mostly for latency issues, plus, if I decide to get a real server, then I will be able to have physical access to it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. From daleville at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 09:11:38 2009 From: daleville at gmail.com (daleville@gmail.com) Date: Tue Mar 31 09:08:21 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] VPS servers / cheap rackspace in Seattle? In-Reply-To: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D240BA.9030509@gmail.com> Have you looked at Amazon EC2? debianuser wrote, On 03/31/2009 05:37 AM: > I am interested in a VPS server located someplace in Seattle. > > I'm looking for a VPS server where I can go wild with my projects just like I can do on my own machine. I'm mainly looking for something where I can max out memory, CPU or bandwidth without effecting other users. > > I would just rent some rack space and get my own server, but that costs more money and uses more electricity, especially since I won't be using the VPS server 24/7. > > > Here are two cool places that I found, I just wish they were in Seattle! > > > A friend of mine told me about this place called VPSland... I was wondering if anyone has any info about how they treat their customers, etc. Are they any good? Are their servers accessible most of the time? > > http://vpsland.com/ > > They have linux VPS's starting at $14 a month, but they aren't located in Seattle. > > > I also found this place called ImHosted... > > http://imhosted.com/ > > This is where I currently have my hosting. They are pretty awesome. I love these guys!! They have unlimited bandwidth and diskspace on a fat network! > > ImHosted has deal that ends today for 3 months of FREE service! I would sign up for that, but I already have an account there. They are pretty cool, but they don't offer VPS. They do offer shell accounts, but frown upon doing any memory, CPU or bandwidth intensive tasks for any length of time. They are mainly a webhosting company and offer some awesome services for the price they are asking! I just wish they had VPS or rack space in Seattle! > > The main reason that I want a VPS is so that I can bypass my slow and retarded consumer grade Qwest router. It is always crashing on me. With a VPS account, then I won't have to deal with that issue as much. > > The main reason that I want to be located in Seattle is mostly for latency issues, plus, if I decide to get a real server, then I will be able to have physical access to it. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general From andrew at becherer.org Tue Mar 31 09:36:32 2009 From: andrew at becherer.org (Andrew Becherer) Date: Tue Mar 31 09:32:15 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] VPS servers / cheap rackspace in Seattle? In-Reply-To: <49D240BA.9030509@gmail.com> References: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D240BA.9030509@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:11 AM, wrote: > Have you looked at Amazon EC2? Amazon ec2, while awesome, is hardly cheap. Even running cheapest instance type for 24 hours a day your bill for March would have come out to $75.18. That is creeping into colocated server pricing territory. There are a lot of scenarios in which to use Amazon ec2. Budget, hobby hosting requiring a constantly running server is not one of these scenarios. Amazon has a service cost calculator available at: http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html The company I use, Rimuhosting, is not Seattle based but they are awesome. They have virtual server plans ranging from $20 to $50. I've had to interact with their support several times over that last 4 to 5 years and they have always exceeded my expectations. http://rimuhosting.com/ -- Andrew Becherer From mark at foster.cc Tue Mar 31 09:59:37 2009 From: mark at foster.cc (Mark Foster) Date: Tue Mar 31 10:03:41 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] [Fwd: Packaging Training Sessions] Message-ID: <49D24BF9.2050805@foster.cc> Here's an opportunity to learn (better) how to build packages for Ubuntu (and thus Debian, et al.) -- I hate rascists. Mark D. Foster http://mark.foster.cc/ | http://conshell.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Daniel Holbach Subject: Packaging Training Sessions Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:18:31 +0200 Size: 6001 Url: http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20090331/c8b0b7b7/PackagingTrainingSessions.eml From btm at loftninjas.org Tue Mar 31 10:23:36 2009 From: btm at loftninjas.org (Bryan McLellan) Date: Tue Mar 31 10:19:21 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Re: [SLL] VPS servers / cheap rackspace in Seattle? In-Reply-To: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <893823750903311023x77af6a6fp26569ab4c910b2d4@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:37 AM, debianuser wrote: > I'm looking for a VPS server where I can go wild with my projects just like I can do on my own machine. I'm mainly looking for something where I can max out memory, CPU or bandwidth without effecting other users. > > I would just rent some rack space and get my own server, but that costs more money and uses more electricity, especially since I won't be using the VPS server 24/7. It's not appropriate for "maxing out bandwidth", but the best colo for hobby projects is the SeaCCP. http://www.seaccp.org/ From paul.bartell at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 10:24:20 2009 From: paul.bartell at gmail.com (Paul Bartell) Date: Tue Mar 31 10:20:03 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] VPS servers / cheap rackspace in Seattle? In-Reply-To: References: <84828.95861.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D240BA.9030509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2b5bab0f0903311024u5e10fb11u73d95ba6e6badd92@mail.gmail.com> I use vpslink. They are located in the Fortress data center in tuckwilla. They seem to have quite good prices. (I got a 50% life discount, so keep checking for those coupons) Another place is called eurovps. Though they are located in europe, ping times arent that bad, and truly geography doesn't matter that much. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Andrew Becherer wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:11 AM, ? wrote: >> Have you looked at Amazon EC2? > > Amazon ec2, while awesome, is hardly cheap. Even running cheapest > instance type for 24 hours a day your bill for March would have come > out to $75.18. That is creeping into colocated server pricing > territory. There are a lot of scenarios in which to use Amazon ec2. > Budget, hobby hosting requiring a constantly running server is not one > of these scenarios. > > Amazon has a service cost calculator available at: > http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/calc5.html > > The company I use, Rimuhosting, is not Seattle based but they are > awesome. They have virtual server plans ranging from $20 to $50. I've > had to interact with their support several times over that last 4 to 5 > years and they have always exceeded my expectations. > http://rimuhosting.com/ > > -- > Andrew Becherer > _______________________________________________ > Gslug-general mailing list > Gslug-general@gslug.org > http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general > -- Random quote of the week/month/whenever i get to updating it: "Opportunity knocked. My doorman threw him out." - Adrienne Gusoff "At school you don't get parole, good behavior only brings a longer sentence." - The History Boys From jakykong at theanythingbox.com Tue Mar 31 15:06:34 2009 From: jakykong at theanythingbox.com (Jack T Mudge III) Date: Tue Mar 31 16:49:12 2009 Subject: [Gslug-general] Zaptel cards and PCI IRQ's In-Reply-To: <200903310219.15886.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> References: <200903310219.15886.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> Message-ID: <200903311506.34402.jakykong@theanythingbox.com> On Tuesday 31 March 2009 02:19:15 am Jack T Mudge III wrote: > Just when I thought the IRQ nightmares of the ISA days were gone, it comes > back to haunt me yet again. This is a problem that I haven't been able to > solve yet. > > Well, after a couple more hours of googling, I found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-dev%40lists.digium.com/msg35317.html Apparently, for the card I have, a small patch is needed on the driver. It seems to have worked. -- Sincerely, Jack Mudge jakykong@theanythingbox.com